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Bryant Reif wrote:

> > : I assume, since you can run the program, that it came with the dongle?
> >
> > It did, but I have found that I need the serial number to prove to Newtek that
> > I have a licensed copy, before they will let me have some new manuals. Not
> > surprising really....
>
>  That's funny, it's printed right on mine.  Arrrrr... nice try cap'n!

Did you ever think of giving the guy a break. At least he was polite. And
situations such as he describes are certainly plausable.

I don't know if they changed things for the LW 4.0c CD, but my 4.0b CD
(fully registered) does NOT have a serial number on it. The LightWave
box has a serial number sticker on it, and there were a couple of duplicate
stickers in the box, one of which I put on the inside cover of my manuals.

In fact, given the costs of printing a varying serial number onto the
face of a CD, and given the fact that NONE of my very expensive, and
totally legitimate software collection has a serial number printed on
the CDs, I'd be very surprised if your LW CD has a serial number
printed on it. Perhaps you are thinking of the product ID number
which is a totally different thing.

John.

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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Diamond surface......
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 15:33:20 -0400
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Jay Turberville wrote:

> Well Ernies info got me interested and then I couldn't find his post.
> So I looked up diamond in Microsoft's Encarta and they had some simple
> diagrams of different gemstone cuts.  Anyway, I modeled a briliant cut
> diamond and rendered a few images which I have posted to Tomahawk in
> the /pub/LW/incoming/framestores directory.  I chose facet angles by
> "eyeball" (but now that I have found the info Ernie posted, I may
> modify it).

I double checked.  From top to bottom the parts of a brilliant cut are
the table (flat top), crown, girdle, base, and culet (tiny flat bottom
that results from grinding down the point).  The crown and base both
form a 41 degree angle to the plane of the table--the XZ plane if the
diamond is upright.  (I said "to the vertical axis" before, which is
wrong.)

Diamonds are polished round, so that the base is a cone, the crown is
a truncated cone, and the thin girdle between them is a cylinder, before
the flat facets are polished in.  You can get the same effect by making
the facets, then boolean intersecting with a cylinder with a high number
of sides (128 at least) and a radius a little smaller than the widest
part of the diamond model.  That'll create a good looking girdle, and
from directly overhead your diamond will look round rather than faceted.

> Anyway it turned out fairly nicely though I wouldn't call it absolutley
> realistic - it is a little too colorful.  I modeled single sided and
> used Double sided in the surfaces panel.

This won't work for refraction.  You need to explicitly create two sides
so that you can give the inward and outward facing polygons different
indexes (l. "indices") of refraction.  Outward = 2.42, but inward = 1.0
for air.

All of the light in your images results from the reflections.  The
refraction, when done with two ref. indexes, creates the kaleidoscope/
shattered mirror effect characteristic of diamonds.  Once you've got that
going, you can turn reflection down (in fact turn it off for a test render
to see what I mean).  I've also got Specularity at 100% and Maximum gloss.
The next thing I'm going to try is a cluster of colored lights to create
the fire.

This is fun!

- Ernie


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From: Bryant Reif <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Manuals?
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 15:45:08 -0400
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John Brandwood wrote:
>
> Bryant Reif wrote:
>
> > > : I assume, since you can run the program, that it came with the dongle?
> > >
> > > It did, but I have found that I need the serial number to prove to Newtek that
> > > I have a licensed copy, before they will let me have some new manuals. Not
> > > surprising really....
> >
> >  That's funny, it's printed right on mine.  Arrrrr... nice try cap'n!
>
> Did you ever think of giving the guy a break. At least he was polite. And
> situations such as he describes are certainly plausable.
>
> I don't know if they changed things for the LW 4.0c CD, but my 4.0b CD
> (fully registered) does NOT have a serial number on it. The LightWave
> box has a serial number sticker on it, and there were a couple of duplicate
> stickers in the box, one of which I put on the inside cover of my manuals.
>
> In fact, given the costs of printing a varying serial number onto the
> face of a CD, and given the fact that NONE of my very expensive, and
> totally legitimate software collection has a serial number printed on
> the CDs, I'd be very surprised if your LW CD has a serial number
> printed on it. Perhaps you are thinking of the product ID number
> which is a totally different thing.
>
> John.

No I was refering to the serial # clearly printed on the dongle.  Ol Bluebeard claims
he has a dongle and that NewTek won't give him new manuals because he doesn't have a
serial #.  Hmm... so do you understand now?
--

Bryant Reif
mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant

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From: [e-mail] (Chris J Clements)
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Subject: FS: A4000 Flyer System
Date: 25 May 1996 20:57:20 GMT
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I have the following Flyer System for sale:

Amiga 4000 in a Toaster Oven
40mhz Warp Engine with 30 Megs RAM
1 gig Fujitsu Hard Drive (IDE)
540 Meg Seagate (IDE)
Toaster 4000
Flyer 4.1
TBC IV
Personal Animation Recorder (PAR)
--1.2 gig Quantum Fireball
--1.6 gig Micropolis 2217A
NEC Multisync 3D Monitor
Commodore 1084s Monitor
Sync Strainer
NEC 3x External CD-Rom (SCSI)

NOTE: There are NO Flyer hard drives on this system.  You can choose and
buy your own.

I, of course,  will sell the PAR and PAR hard drives or Flyer Card
seperately, if anyone is interested.


E-mail away!

Chris Clements
[e-mail]




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[e-mail] (Drugmaster) wrote:
>>*************** CONTEST *****************
>>Prizes>>Since we have no sponsors and no money, we are giving out mail aliases from >>our domain, LSD.ORG.  And a link to your homepage off of the credits page >>>How to win!

>>Please send all entrees to
>>
Does this mean you will work for food?


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
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Subject: Re: Just Curious ?
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On Fri 24-May-1996  5:08p, Henri Smulders wrote:
HS> Mark Dunakin wrote:
HS> > Just curious, does anyone out there know of a way to do a shrink wrap
HS> around
HS> >  an object?   have you tried BG_Conform yet? It is one of the
HS> custom-tools; So I don't know if the Alpha version has
HS> it. Be sure the object in the background has a lot more points than the
HS> one in the foreground.

HS>         Hajo
---------
Hey, thanx :) I'll check it out and see what's up......md

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From: [e-mail] (Vicc Timm)
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Subject: Video Flyer System FOR SALE. make an offer >>> [e-mail]
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 23:13:47 GMT
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Video Flyer System for sale
---------------------------
Amiga 4000 40/040 Warp Engine With 16 Megs 60ns RAM
---------------------------------------------------
Warp Engine SCSI II Centronics port on back
and SCSI II ribbon cable inside
Modified to hold the old Toaster 2000 Card

Commodore 1960 Monitor with sync-strainer
A4000 Keyboard
A3000 Mouse

120 Meg IDE Seagate HD
1.2 Gig SCSI II Toshiba HD

Toaster 4000 card with Version 3.1 software

Video Flyer card w\octopus HD cable - I have from Version .9 to 4.1
software

Studio 16 w\V3.0 software (8 track non-linear CD quality audio - VERY
COOL)

External mini tower for Flyer Drives. Includes:
-----------------------------------------------
2 Quantum Atlas 2 Gig "Flyer HQ5 Approved" HD's
1 Connor 1 Gig SCSI II Audio HD
1 Sanyo 2x SCSI CD Rom
DPS Personal TBC IV

MASSIVE collection of nearly all of the very best Amiga software.
You name it I've probably got it.
-----------------------------------------------

Send mailto:

William C. Walker III
Amazing Sound & Vision
email - [e-mail]

Or call - [phone]


 - \/icc Timm

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Subject: Video Flyer System FOR SALE. make an offer >>> [e-mail]
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 23:14:29 GMT
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Video Flyer System for sale
---------------------------
Amiga 4000 40/040 Warp Engine With 16 Megs 60ns RAM
---------------------------------------------------
Warp Engine SCSI II Centronics port on back
and SCSI II ribbon cable inside
Modified to hold the old Toaster 2000 Card

Commodore 1960 Monitor with sync-strainer
A4000 Keyboard
A3000 Mouse

120 Meg IDE Seagate HD
1.2 Gig SCSI II Toshiba HD

Toaster 4000 card with Version 3.1 software

Video Flyer card w\octopus HD cable - I have from Version .9 to 4.1
software

Studio 16 w\V3.0 software (8 track non-linear CD quality audio - VERY
COOL)

External mini tower for Flyer Drives. Includes:
-----------------------------------------------
2 Quantum Atlas 2 Gig "Flyer HQ5 Approved" HD's
1 Connor 1 Gig SCSI II Audio HD
1 Sanyo 2x SCSI CD Rom
DPS Personal TBC IV

MASSIVE collection of nearly all of the very best Amiga software.
You name it I've probably got it.
-----------------------------------------------

Send mailto:

William C. Walker III
Amazing Sound & Vision
email - [e-mail]

Or call - [phone]


 - \/icc Timm

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From: [e-mail] (Vicc Timm)
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Subject: Video Flyer System FOR SALE. make an offer >>> [e-mail]
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 23:15:03 GMT
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Video Flyer System for sale
---------------------------
Amiga 4000 40/040 Warp Engine With 16 Megs 60ns RAM
---------------------------------------------------
Warp Engine SCSI II Centronics port on back
and SCSI II ribbon cable inside
Modified to hold the old Toaster 2000 Card

Commodore 1960 Monitor with sync-strainer
A4000 Keyboard
A3000 Mouse

120 Meg IDE Seagate HD
1.2 Gig SCSI II Toshiba HD

Toaster 4000 card with Version 3.1 software

Video Flyer card w\octopus HD cable - I have from Version .9 to 4.1
software

Studio 16 w\V3.0 software (8 track non-linear CD quality audio - VERY
COOL)

External mini tower for Flyer Drives. Includes:
-----------------------------------------------
2 Quantum Atlas 2 Gig "Flyer HQ5 Approved" HD's
1 Connor 1 Gig SCSI II Audio HD
1 Sanyo 2x SCSI CD Rom
DPS Personal TBC IV

MASSIVE collection of nearly all of the very best Amiga software.
You name it I've probably got it.
-----------------------------------------------

Send mailto:

William C. Walker III
Amazing Sound & Vision
email - [e-mail]

Or call - [phone]


 - \/icc Timm

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Video Flyer System for sale
---------------------------
Amiga 4000 40/040 Warp Engine With 16 Megs 60ns RAM
---------------------------------------------------
Warp Engine SCSI II Centronics port on back
and SCSI II ribbon cable inside
Modified to hold the old Toaster 2000 Card

Commodore 1960 Monitor with sync-strainer
A4000 Keyboard
A3000 Mouse

120Meg IDE Seagate HD
1.2 Gig SCSI II Toshiba HD

Toaster 4000 card with Version 3.1 software

Video Flyer card w\octopus HD cable - I have from Version .9 to 4.1
software

Studio 16 w\V3.0 software (8 track non-linear CD quality audio - VERY
COOL)

External mini tower for Flyer Drives. Includes:
-----------------------------------------------
2 Quantum Atlas 2 Gig "Flyer HQ5 Approved" HD's
1 Connor 1 Gig SCSI II Audio HD
1 Sanyo 2x SCSI CD Rom
DPS Personal TBC IV

MASSIVE collection of nearly all of the very best Amiga software.
You name it I've probably got it.
-----------------------------------------------
I do not want to part this stuff out.
Make me an offer on the whole system.
I'm not that sure I really want to part with it - so don't make the
offer absurdly low.
I'm just doing so much more Animation than Video that I think this
might be the right move.

Thanks,

William C. Walker III
Amazing Sound & Vision
email - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Diamond surface......
Date: 25 May 1996 16:52:01 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]> Ernie Wright <[e-mail]> writes:
[snip]

>I double checked.  From top to bottom the parts of a brilliant cut are
>the table (flat top), crown, girdle, base, and culet (tiny flat bottom
>that results from grinding down the point).  The crown and base both
>form a 41 degree angle to the plane of the table--the XZ plane if the
>diamond is upright.  (I said "to the vertical axis" before, which is
>wrong.)

>Diamonds are polished round, so that the base is a cone, the crown is
>a truncated cone, and the thin girdle between them is a cylinder, before
>the flat facets are polished in.  You can get the same effect by making
>the facets, then boolean intersecting with a cylinder with a high number
>of sides (128 at least) and a radius a little smaller than the widest
>part of the diamond model.  That'll create a good looking girdle, and
>from directly overhead your diamond will look round rather than faceted.

Well, I don't know if Encarta is really much of an authority, but it says "The
better glass imitations are cut and polished like true stones, but cheaper
counterfeits are molded in the form of brilliants and consequently have
rounded edges."  This implies that there should be no rounded edges?  Anybody
have a fairly large brilliant cut diamond I could borrow for a couple of days?
:^)

>> Anyway it turned out fairly nicely though I wouldn't call it absolutley
>> realistic - it is a little too colorful.  I modeled single sided and
>> used Double sided in the surfaces panel.

>This won't work for refraction.  You need to explicitly create two sides
>so that you can give the inward and outward facing polygons different
>indexes (l. "indices") of refraction.  Outward = 2.42, but inward = 1.0
>for air.

Hmmm . . . no problem.  I'll change that tonight.

>All of the light in your images results from the reflections.  The
>refraction, when done with two ref. indexes, creates the kaleidoscope/
>shattered mirror effect characteristic of diamonds.  Once you've got that
>going, you can turn reflection down (in fact turn it off for a test render
>to see what I mean).  I've also got Specularity at 100% and Maximum gloss.
>The next thing I'm going to try is a cluster of colored lights to create
>the fire.

Ditto on the specularity and gloss.  BTW - I looked at a friends diamond and
it struck me that one of the things that gives the high sparkle was that many
parts of the diamond appear quite dark.  So a lot of the "sparkle" is from the
contrast in brightness.

I like the look of my first test, but it isn't realistic.  I'll keep going
toward realistic.

>This is fun!

>- Ernie

Yes, and I have other stuff I should be doing.  Oh well.



Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
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Subject: Re: Again more Dongle Problems
Date: 22 May 1996 21:49:01 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
>Subject: Re: Again more Dongle Problems
>Date: 22 May 1996 15:16:01 -0700

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tony Lisanti) writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (Tony Lisanti)
>>Subject: Again more Dongle Problems
>>Date: 22 May 1996 01:54:23 GMT



>> I thought I was immune to dongle problems. I was wrong.. Now my Snappy and
>>Printer refuse to work without first removing the dongle. I made a call to
>>Newtek. Trying to get technical support is like trying to talk to God. I hear
>>even the dealers have an impossible time trying to get though. So can anyone
>>help me with my dongle problems?



>>Tony

>Based upon the experiences posted here, I won't plug anything into the
>backside of a LW dongle.  For any reason. Period.  Apparently some printers
>have the nasty trait of "reprogramming" the dongle.  I think the price of an
>additional parallel port ($20-40) or a switchbox ($20 or so - works for most
>but not all parallel devices) is easily worth the peace of mind.

A minor addendum.  I would consider plugging an unnattached parallel cable
into the backside of a dongle.  Some people have reported that doing so has
made their dongle more stable.  I do not see the harm in that since the cable
does not generate a signal.  It may serve an impedance matching function or
something like that.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Zimmerman)
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Does anybody know if it is possible to capture video & audio from the PVR from
within Premiere?
If not, how do you on-line (batch-capture) something with Premiere and the
PVR, provided you can only capture with the software that ships with the PVR?
Is the only reliable solution Speed Razor Mach III?

I know it's off topic, but thanks anyway!

Dan


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On Tue, 21 May 1996 01:39:55 -0400, Ernie Wright
<[e-mail]> wrote:


>Gem diamonds are precisely cut to maximize "brilliance," an effect
>of these internal reflections.  The facets that make up the base,
>for example, are at an angle of 41 degrees to the vertical axis.
>I suspect a convincing diamond model would have to be built the same
>way real diamonds are cut.  You'll also need a way to simulate fire,
>the prismatic effect that makes the sparkles look like tiny rainbows.

Well I have the model right... I looked up some books on diamonds, and
checked out how they were cut.. It makes a huge difference..... To get
that "fire" effect, I parented a point light inside the diamond
surface (double sided) and just outside it. It helped heaps, but the
diamond had to look white.... If you ever look at a photo of one, it's
almost briiliant sparkilng whit, so, the table its sitting on in the
scene now has a white top, and that made a big difference.
So far so good....!!!

Thanx for all the advice.

Ted.....

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On Tue, 21 May 1996 15:44:42 GMT, [e-mail] (Tony
Schreiner) wrote:


>To make a diamond, I recommend following the instructions on tips
>sites such as Primordal Soup on how to make a "whisky glass".  The
>author goes into detail about flipping polygons to make double-sided
>surfaces that aid in proper reflection and refraction.  I've made some
>test glasses, and it looks like critical angles and the like works.

Yep... If its not double sided, it looks wrong....



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From: [e-mail]
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TRYING TO REACH YOU WITH NO LUCK. gET IN TOUCH PLEASE.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
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In article <[e-mail]> Ernie Wright <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Diamond surface......
>Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 15:33:20 -0400

>Jay Turberville wrote:

>> Well Ernies info got me interested and then I couldn't find his post.
>> So I looked up diamond in Microsoft's Encarta and they had some simple
>> diagrams of different gemstone cuts.  Anyway, I modeled a briliant cut
>> diamond and rendered a few images which I have posted to Tomahawk in
>> the /pub/LW/incoming/framestores directory.  I chose facet angles by
>> "eyeball" (but now that I have found the info Ernie posted, I may
>> modify it).

>I double checked.  From top to bottom the parts of a brilliant cut are
>the table (flat top), crown, girdle, base, and culet (tiny flat bottom
>that results from grinding down the point).  The crown and base both
>form a 41 degree angle to the plane of the table--the XZ plane if the
>diamond is upright.  (I said "to the vertical axis" before, which is
>wrong.)

Sure - now ya tell me.  And I already modified the angle.  Oh well.  I did get
everything double sided (and double named).  I'll experiment later tonight.

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>        He was civil.  If he said "I have no plans to help you you
>        G*D D*MMED pirate..." now *that* would not be civil.

>        He was _clearly_ expressing a view that the poster was possibly
>        a pirate.... if anything, his message was less about communicating
>        to the original poster than it was a cautionary note to all who
>        might thoughtlessly post information (read, a message to *you*).

>        Luckily there are some people in this group that realise that
>        not everyone is a legitimate owner of Lightwave, and are
>        cautious about giving out information about basic Lightwave
>        functionality.  See, some folks care about Lightwave users
>        *AND* the product, and try to do well by both.

>        A far more difficult kind of interaction than the simplistic
>        "answer all questions, do not judge the source" tack you seem
>        to have taken.

>        Regards,

>        Michael Powell

I tend to be cautious as well.  However, there are archives of this list
available.  There is a FAQ available.  There are a few dozend WWW sites that
point to these and other resources.  There is LW-Pro and the compilation book.
 In all reality, it is a token effort.  I'll keep making the effort anyway,
but I think we should keep it in perspective.


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From: "Bryan J. Blevins" <[e-mail]>
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Henri Smulders wrote:
>
> Hi; I'm about to order a PPro Motherboard

>         However I've been reading about a bad chipset that resricts the
> PCI-bus to 8Mb per sec. Which chipset is that? Obviously I don't want my
> $2000 glyder to be restricted to that kind of crapola!
>         Thanks
>         Hajo


Glyn Williams posted this recently regarding the correct chipset for PPro
systems.

> If you look at the 82450 OBP (Bridge chip), the largest
> of the 7 chip orion chipset, you will see a # on the chip,
> 82454.  Underneath # is an SU code, this tells you the
> stepping:
> SU022,024,028,030,042, and 044 are all A2 stepping.
> SU059,SU063 and SU064 are all B0 Stepping.
>
> You >>WANT<< B0 Stepping, if you do any PCI video at all.
> The A2 stepping does not allow outbound write posting under
> any circumstances so writes to PCI video boards will be
> limited to about 4MB/sec (REAL SLOW).
>
> If you have an Intel Performance/AU motherboard, then
> motherboard part #'s (located on a sticker on the motherboard)
> that end in -702 or later are B0 equipped systems, those
> ending in -701 or earlier are earlier chipset versions.
> I saw a board the other day with -604 on it, mine has -703.

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[e-mail] (Pascal Frencken) wrote:

>I want to unsubscribe from the LightWave mailing list, does anybody
>know how to do this?

>e-mail me, or just respond to this thread.

>Thanks,

>Pascal

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
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In article <[e-mail]> Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: LW 5.0 Misc
>Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 20:09:05 -0400

>Alan Chan wrote:
>>
>> In <4o18rv$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (JBooth411)
>> writes:
>> >
>> >    Hey, does anyone else miss not seeing anything happen while
>> loading? I
>> >sometimes load huge scene files, and see no action on the screen for
>> about
>> >a minute, and blam, there's my scene. In the old lightwave, you could
>> see
>> >the object/image/surfaces counters going up, showing some progress..
>> Much
>> >nicer..
>>
>> You can have the Scene panel up while loading. What's cooler is if you
>> have the Objects panel up while loading and you see your objects
>> popping in one at a time.  :)
>>
>> AC

>Maybe you should get a screen saver for better entertainment ;-)

>Jean-Eric

If you squeeze your eyes together real hard while a scene is loading, you will
see lights (phosphenes to be exact).  Of course this happens even if you
aren't loading a scene.  You can get even cooler results by gently (emphasis
here) pressing around your eyeball with your eyelids closed.

. . . well I find it entertaining.


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Can anyone explain how two five point polygons that share the same points can
have different percentages of flatness.  I was changing the angles on the
diamond object we have been discussing and was getting one of the facets back
to flat and ran across this.  The outward facing poly is 0.1% flat while the
inward facing poly is 1.1% flat.  Very odd since they should have the same
geometry.

I flipped the poly and unmade and then remade it.  Same results.

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
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As far as all of this subject goes, I do think of the pirate people who are
out there and do not like to give out advice to someone who is pirating.
When I had responded to the reply of someone who I felt was over reacting to a
cry for help from a LW user, I got back the same `ol story that,
"Hey! Maybe that person is a pirate and you shouldn't be so eager to help them
out!" ruotine. Geez, I don't know how to explain it, but I get tired of all
this stuff about who is and who isn't a genuine LW user. I'm not so nyeav,
"or how ever you spell it?" that I can't see a blatent pirate, but this guy
sounded like he had tried out the manual and just couldn't get it. It does
happen you know. And the tutorial does not mention anything, as far as I can
remember, about single sided or double sided polygons being used or not being
used when one is doing a boolean...I could be wrong about that though. And
something as simple as thinking that you are supposed to have everything
double sided CAN mess things up. When I first started using LW, I sort of
thought that way........I guess I'm the type who always likes to help people
and sometimes I may not think about whether thay are genuine or not, if so I
can only say that I'll try to get better at spotting the frauds but I'll still
help people out when it seems like the right thing to do.....md...oh well...?

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
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Walter (Jay) Turberville (III) ([e-mail]) wrote:


: I tend to be cautious as well.  However, there are archives of this list
: available.  There is a FAQ available.  There are a few dozend WWW sites that
: point to these and other resources.  There is LW-Pro and the compilation book.
:  In all reality, it is a token effort.  I'll keep making the effort anyway,
: but I think we should keep it in perspective.

    Exactly... which is why we should not call people who do make
    this effort "smart-asses"...  There is a lot of 3rd party info
    on LW... but no sense making it easy for the non-deserving.

    Everyone ultimately needs to make the judgement call on their
    own before lending a hand... my position is that these individual
    judgements should be respected.

    What I don't respect are people who don't make any effort
    at caution, or worse, slamming others for being cautious.

    Regards,

    -mp-



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Just curious, does anyone out there know of a way to do a shrink wrap around
 an object? What I would like to be able to do, (just for fun), is to see if
 while you are in Modelor, you could shrink wrap one object from one layer
 around another object in another layer? Actually, I really would like to know
 if this could be done for the purpose of making some great morph targets.
 Anyway, thanx for any kind of sugestions on this......md :)

P.S. I have reposted this messge because I didn't get any kind of response
from anyone, so I didn't know if it ever got out there or not? And also I just
got my LW 5.0 installed and it's sooooo fun using the MetaNurbs tool. Just
screwing around with it is a blast! Make a ball and bevel it :) Also I got my
Raptor 3 back from the shop, so I'll be posting the results in a few days on
how things are holding up. RE: crashes all the time....... So far so good :)

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From: [e-mail] (Harry Benjamin Gibson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: [REVIEW] Stranahan in actionHEY STRANAHAN!!!!
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Stranahan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: ----------------------------
: What? No credit for the 5.0 LightWave release. Here is a product that
: we did not pre-release, we didnt even  pre-announce it.
: ----------------------------------

: Brad, it was BAD that you didn't 'pre-announce' (ie, promote or market)
: it. It's not smart or admirable in any way. No marketing credit at all.
: Zero, none - it was stealth marketing - in the meantime, hundreds of
: people probably bought Max or other software because they heard that
: LightWave didn't have good IK or didn't have OpenGL or couldn't do
: projection lights or other.

: What do you want credit for? Putting Allen and Stuart and Fori's code on a
: CD Rom and getting it in a box? Okay, whatever. Keeping secrets? Why was
: it a good idea to keep LightWave's feautures a secret?

: You say...
: --------------------------------------------------------
:  Amidst all the talk of MAX and SoftImage it was difficult to keep quiet,
: but we did.
: -------------------------------------------------------

: In other words, while those products were building buzz, you kept quiet!
: Why are you proud of this? Read what you wrote there again - it's horrific
: that you could take pride in silence with 'all the talk' of competive
: products....seriously, has hanging around the brain-dead Marketeers at
: NewTek made you lose IQ points? I know you're smarter than this, Brad.

But the trouble was all the bitching that went on when they started talking about
4.0/ etc. and it didn't come out on time. Newtek is getting caught in a catch22
here. If the product is announced early, tehy get burned. If the product is
kept quiet, they get burned. Kinda unfair.

As far as most of Lee's posts go, I like to see them. He seems to fill in for
the guy who used to walk around behind XCeaserCeacerser and
mutter "thou art motrtal" This is amn important role for any company.

Ben Gibson


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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
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In article <4numko$[e-mail]>, Steven Johansen <203.15.163.13> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Peter Murray) wrote:
>>Are there any shops is Australia (preferably Melbourne)
>>which sell LW5.0?  And more importantly, how much?
>>
>
>     A place called Multimedia Technologies in Melbourne
>distributes it. I called them several weeks ago and they had no info,
>although they might have now.
>     Btw I orderded my upgrade copy directly from Newtek with express
>postage
>it cost an extra $100 US but was delivered in a week,although the
>person at Newtek said it would take 2.(I thought that a tad optimistic)
>     I imagine you could order the complete package from them if you
>are prepared for the extra cost.
>
>      Steven
>
Interesting. I ordered Hash's Animation Master directly from Hash in the
US last Saturday morning and it arrived first thing Tuesday morning and only
cost US$35. I was pretty blown away with the speed.

They sent it by Fed Express, so keep them in mind if you want to get stuff
here quickly.

Cheers

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Kevin Gleeson
Imagine It
3D animation and graphics
Hobart
Tasmania
Australia

The Librarian Rules! - OOOK!
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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[e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson) wrote:

>Interesting. I ordered Hash's Animation Master directly from Hash in the
>US last Saturday morning and it arrived first thing Tuesday morning and only
>cost US$35. I was pretty blown away with the speed.

     wow! very impressive
>
>They sent it by Fed Express, so keep them in mind if you want to get stuff
>here quickly.

     Sounds like they sent it by Startrek transporter actually.

      Thanks

       Steven

>
>Cheers
>
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>Kevin Gleeson
>Imagine It
>3D animation and graphics
>Hobart
>Tasmania
>Australia
>
>The Librarian Rules! - OOOK!
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From: [e-mail] (Bryan Ewert)
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[e-mail] (GKeenan818) wrote:

 > It turns out that AMG have been bought over by another company, who's
name
 > eludes me at the moment.....

Miller Freeman, Inc.

--
Bryan Ewert                              Amiga Users of Calgary
JUUL:Animation, Ltd.                       [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Jean-marc Gaillon)
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Subject: HOW TO OBTAIN AT LOW PRICE RELEASE LW5
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HI?  I'm french
I request adress for release LW4 ---> LW5

thanks
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From: [e-mail] (Kurt Frary)
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 Hi my name is Kurt Frary....

If you or your company wants a Raytraced image/logo  for your web page
for example for free.

 Email me at

 [e-mail]

 with details of the basic outline that you want, you can be as
specific as you like.

 I will then create the image and mail it to you all I ask is that I
get credited for it and my Email address appears there for other
people to see.




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From: [e-mail] (Tsigkos Stefanos)
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Subject: maps again
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i'm sorry but there is the same question always. Is there a better way to
grab a surface out of the modelere for paint than the usual "print screen"?
i meen there MUST be a better way.
Could anyone name me a good book for Lightwave. One that covers all the
fewtures . From modeling to IK, animation, morphing
thanx


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From: [e-mail] (GregorZoll)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: INSTALL PROBLEMS LW 5.0
Date: 26 May 1996 11:18:34 -0400
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put the language to english (USA!)
i had the same problem in germany
...after putting it to US-english all worked fine

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From: [e-mail] (GregorZoll)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: No volumetric lightning in 5.0??
Date: 26 May 1996 11:21:49 -0400
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i thought 5.0 comes with volumetric lightning?
cant find it.

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From: [e-mail] (GregorZoll)
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Subject: modeler replace plugin for intel/alpha?
Date: 26 May 1996 11:26:32 -0400
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on the amiga there is a plugin that replaces points with an object in the
background layer..
is this also available for intel or alpha?
or does anyone know how to do this manualy?
does noone else miss this feature?
thanx

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From: Gregg Lukomski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: LW5.0 for SGI status?
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  Anyone under software support have any info on the
status of LW5.0 for IRIX?  Newtek, Xaos and everyone
else have very little info and haven't updated their
web pages since pre-NAB...

Gregg Lukomski
  Digital Design Lab
  Orlando,FL



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In article <4o9sud$[e-mail]> GregorZoll,
[e-mail] writes:
>Subject: No volumetric lightning in 5.0??
>From: GregorZoll, [e-mail]
>Date: 26 May 1996 11:21:49 -0400
>>i thought 5.0 comes with volumetric lightning?
>cant find it.


Sorry. No Volumetric lighting in 5.0. You can fake it several ways, but
none are TRUE volumetric lighting.

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From: [e-mail] (CGI GROUP)
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Subject: Re: VT/Windows in Indiana?
Date: 26 May 1996 12:52:37 -0400
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Please.... do you think that NewTek would jump through hoops for 30
copies?  If you would pre-sell 150 copies or so. I think they listen to
you.

Rick


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From: "Jonathan Zhan" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: hiip avi exporter?
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 00:28:37 +0800
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I know this sounds like a ridiculously basic question to ask, but is there
any reason why I should have any problems with the hiip avi exporter
running LW3D 4.0 under Windows95?


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For $1495 you can buy a dongle that plugs into the parallel port.

Rick



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From: [e-mail] (Howard ST)
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Subject: metanurbs w. Metamorph
Date: 26 May 1996 12:40:03 -0400
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Hmmmm....I posted this question 2 days ago but it never seems to have
arrived
on the newsgroup. AOL flakiness maybe...

Well here goes again:

I have been trying to create a sequence of metamorph targets using
metanurbs.
I am getting somewhat inconsistent results and I'm curious if anybody has
any
advice:

Here is what I've done:

1) Created a Character  head with facial features using metanurbs.
2) Froze to polys.
3) Saved as Char1.lwo
4) hit undo to remove frozen polys and go back to metanurbs.
5) Tweaked face into a smile using metanurbs
6) Froze to polys.
7) Saved out as char2.lwo
8) Hit undo to go back to metanurbs
9) Tweaked to next facial expression, froze, save (char3.lwo) undo, etc.

Note that during the course of working on the above I never added
additonal detail (polys) to the reference geometry for the metanurbs, I
also never changed anything in the options settings which control poly
density. I only dragged points, stretched and  moved them.

When I was done I had eight frozen models saved out :  Char1.lwo through
Char8.lwo. I brought them all into layout and tried to morph from one to
the next. Here is what I found:

The first 3 models metamorphed beautifully. They had the same number of
polys and looked just as I'd hoped. The fourth and fifth models has the
same number of polys as the first three, but when I metamorphed to them
they looked totally messed up--like the point order was all out of whack.
SIx through eight had a different number of polys from one through five
and therefore were useless as morph targets.

OK, so I'm trying to figure out what I might have done to cause the first
3 models to be acceptable candidates for metamorphing and the remaining
ones not so. The  only tools I used on the reference geometry were
stretch, drag and move.

A few questions:

1) Is modeler supposed to always  give you  "frozen" poly models with the
same number of points from a given piece of reference geometry with a
certain number of polys. In other words, if I don't change the number of
polys in the reference geometry, is that supposed to mean I always wind up
with the same number of polys in my frozen version My experience is that
*sometimes* it does and sometimes it doesn't but I can't figure out what
the logic behind it is.

2) What would cause the models to lose their point order and result in the
problems I had between Char3 and Char4? I have models with the same number
of points and polys but when I try to metamorph between them I get mesesd
up results, even though each model, independently looks fine.

3) Does anyone have a suggestion regarding a better process to use to get
these same results. Is it a bad thing that I keep undoing after each
freeze? The frozen model was over 5000 polys so I didn't want to keep all
those copies in layers in modeler.

ANy help appreciated! Thanks!

-H
-H

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From: [e-mail] (Howard ST)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: EPS import
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Is there any way to get an eps file (such as a logo) from Illustrator or
Freehand to import into Lighwave or Modeler. I posted this question a week
or so ago and someone suggested that Lightwave would recognize this
format, but I get errors that say "unrecognized geometry format' or
something like that. Do I need a separate conversion utility? Thanks

-H
-H

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From: [e-mail] (Noam Ben-Ami)
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Subject: Re: HOW TO OBTAIN AT LOW PRICE RELEASE LW5
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[e-mail] (Jean-marc Gaillon) writes:

>HI?  I'm french

I'm sorry.


--
Noam Ben-Ami is [e-mail] Solar Acoustics High Performance Speakers.

http://farside.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~nbenami ---- Disclaimer: I speak for myself ONLY.


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From: david goerndt <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Poser or Humanoid?
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 14:19:28 -0400
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Steve Tack wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me the main differences between Poser and Humanoid?  I'm
> considering Poser, since it's cheaper ($90), but I know nothing about Humanoid,
> other than it appears to be a similiar program.  I'd mostly like to know which
> one works better with Lightwave.  Thanks!
>
> Steve Tack


I have Poser, and just for fun and my own info , I made a figure in Poser
then exported a DXF to LW. All the polys are double-sided and flipped,
which is not a problem. The resolution of the feature  isn't very good.
So its not very useful for anything close-up. You can morph between poses
created in Poser. For the price, its a good tools to play with, but it
doesn't create good human models.

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From: david goerndt <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Lightwave upgrading...
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 14:37:49 -0400
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Jeroen Van Velsen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know if it's possible to cross upgrade from LW 4.0 Amiga
> to LW 5.0 Intel? I've written 2 E-mails to Newtek but I haven't had
> any response yet. (I wrote to: "[e-mail]" is this the wrong
> adress?)
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Greetings,
>
> Jeroen van Velsen (NETMAIL: 14:101/101.8)
>                   (EMAIL: [e-mail])
> -- Via Xenolink 1.984, XenolinkUUCP 1.1


The only way is to pay full price for LW 5. I had the same idea because I
had a registered 4.0 Amiga version and thought I could cross upgrade, thr
answer was only if you pay full price.

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From: [e-mail] (Laura Rogers)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Lowest Price LW 5.0 1000.00
Date: 26 May 1996 17:53:48 GMT
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Rising Sun Entertainment has the lowest price found so far for Lightwave 5.0


                $1000.00 (for a limited time)


714-738-4931

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From: david goerndt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Newtek: Why can't I upgrade Amiga to PC LightWave?
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 14:44:27 -0400
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> To anyone at Newtek:
>
> Why can't I upgrade from Amiga LW 4.0 to PC LW 5.0?
> This really makes no sense. I can understand paying
> $500 as opposed to $300 for an upgrade, but I am
> not allowed to do this!
>
> Please respond to:
> [e-mail]
>
> or
>
> http://www.seanet.com/~mortlieb/
>
> I would like to clear this up as soon as possible!


I called Newtek about this because I was wondering about switching to PC
LW 5. I was told I would have to pay full price for PC LW. I believe
their reasoning is that it is a different program with a different
dongle, so cross-upgrading isn't possible.

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From: david goerndt <[e-mail]>
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Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 15:05:34 -0400
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John Brandwood wrote:
>
> Bryant Reif wrote:
>
> > > : I assume, since you can run the program, that it came with the dongle?
> > >
> > > It did, but I have found that I need the serial number to prove to Newtek that
> > > I have a licensed copy, before they will let me have some new manuals. Not
> > > surprising really....
> >
> >  That's funny, it's printed right on mine.  Arrrrr... nice try cap'n!
>
> Did you ever think of giving the guy a break. At least he was polite. And
> situations such as he describes are certainly plausable.
>
> I don't know if they changed things for the LW 4.0c CD, but my 4.0b CD
> (fully registered) does NOT have a serial number on it. The LightWave
> box has a serial number sticker on it, and there were a couple of duplicate
> stickers in the box, one of which I put on the inside cover of my manuals.
>
> In fact, given the costs of printing a varying serial number onto the
> face of a CD, and given the fact that NONE of my very expensive, and
> totally legitimate software collection has a serial number printed on
> the CDs, I'd be very surprised if your LW CD has a serial number
> printed on it. Perhaps you are thinking of the product ID number
> which is a totally different thing.
>
> John.


The 5.0 upgrade for Intel has no serial #, as you use your 4.0 serial
number and dongle. I asked Newtek if theyrequired a serial # to purchase
the 5.0 upgrade and they said no, if you want to purchase the upgrade
without having 4.0 go ahead (newtek humor?).

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From: [e-mail] (GKeenan818)
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Subject: Re: Strange LightWave 5.0 Bug? Don't Panic, This is not another worry posting L
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In article <4o58kb$[e-mail]>, [e-mail](Alan
Chan) writes:

>This results from 5.0 using absolute values instead of relative values
>for intensity falloff. Does your scene use envelopes for either light
>intensity or falloff?
>
>AC

The scene contains rather a large amount of envelopes for the light
intensity/falloff.
Is there some way around this apparent problem?

GK

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From: david goerndt <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: No volumetric lightning in 5.0??
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GregorZoll wrote:
>
> i thought 5.0 comes with volumetric lightning?
> cant find it.


It isn't in 5.0, you have to fake it.

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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Subject: Re: Shareware evaluation
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:

>There is no shareware version of LW.  It is commercial software only.
>
>
>

That's true, but technically shareware is also commercial.  Users are
required to pay the registration fee if they continue to use the program
after the evaluation.

-Marc

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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Subject: Re: Again more Dongle Problems
Date: 26 May 1996 14:20:17 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:

>Based upon the experiences posted here, I won't plug anything into the
>backside of a LW dongle.  For any reason. Period.  Apparently some
printers
>have the nasty trait of "reprogramming" the dongle.  I think the price of
an
>additional parallel port ($20-40) or a switchbox ($20 or so - works for
most
>but not all parallel devices) is easily worth the peace of mind.
>

I may be living dangerously, but I've got two dongles (LightWave and
Inscriber CG) connected to my printer port, and the only thing that I've
had a problem with is INTERSVR (DOS).  I've had this setup for about a
year.

-Marc

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ---> lw50-cracked???...
Date: 26 May 1996 14:39:38 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
writes:

>    Is there someone who has the 100% working cracked
>    version of LW50. If ya have send me an email, i will
>    pay for it!..
>
>

Wow!  Those programmers sure are busy.  They're all the way up to version
50 already!

-Marc

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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In article <4o2eap$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Surfer)
writes:

>Are you serious? $500.00 for all the features from 4.0 <> 5.0 is
>nothing!!

This is about the cost of one or two plug-ins for 3D Studio.

-Marc

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From: [e-mail] (VirtualBri)
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Can't wait to read it Dan!
--Brian
========   http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/   =======
== Home of the LightWave 3D Internet Resource Lists  ==
=============  So, why aren't you on it?  =============
============  All you gotta do is ask....  ============


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From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: What graphics card and monitor for Lightwave?
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To: "Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)" <[e-mail]>

Walter (Jay) Turberville (III) wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tony Schreiner) writes:
> >From: [e-mail] (Tony Schreiner)
> >Subject: What graphics card and monitor for Lightwave?
> >Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 22:49:07 GMT
>
> >I will be upgrading my computer in a few weeks, and later this summer
> >I hope to get Lightwave 5.0.
>
> >The system will be a P155 or P166, and probably 32 Megs of RAM now
> >that an additional 16 Megs is available for ~$170.
>
> >I'm considering a Matrox Millenium 4 Meg WRAM and an Iiyama 8617E or
> >9017E 17" monitor.
>
> >Does Lightwave 5.0 support OpenGL on the Millenium?  Also, since the
> >resolution with acceleration on is limited, I imagine I'll be using
> >1280x1024 or 1600x1280 for some modeling, when I need to see as much
> >as possible and don't need to see a shaded preview.
>
> >Are any other good 3D graphics cards coming out that are priced
> >similarly to the Millenium?  I have little interest in games, so
> >accelerating 2D Windows95 graphics and 3D graphics is most important.
>
> >I'd appreciate any recommendations I can get regarding this kind of
> >hardware and Lightwave.
>
>
>...........................................................................
> >: Tony Schreiner                 :  2 + 2 = 5 for large values of 2       :
>
> I just wrote a length response to this often asked question - then I discarded
> it.  The problem with this question is similar to the problem of which
> software to is better.  It just depends on what you want to do and how much
> money you have (and some other things as well).
>
> So the bottom line is that there is almost no hard right or wrong on what
> hardware to use.  It depends on your intended use.  Fast display cards are
> good.  Lots of RAM is good.  Large displays are good as well.
>
> But that doesn't necessarily mean you should run out and buy these.  Identify
> as precisely as you can what your intended end use is going to be.  Then
> identify what else you might need besides hardware upgrades.  Then take a look
> at your budget - and THEN some folks can REALLY give you good advice here.
>
> So - determine your use - or at least identify that you are up in the air on
> the use.  Then you have a chance to make a good decision.
>
> Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
> Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
> http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

I currently have a Pentium 166 system, similar to what you are
describing and I also have the MGA Millenium and I am very satisfied
with. It works very well with LightWave 4.0. I would assume 5.0 will do
the same with it.

Since LW isn't as demanding on graphics card as SoftImage, you may not
really see a big difference by upgrading to one of those high-end
graphics card.

Jean-Eric

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From: Jeff Holinski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Poser or Humanoid?
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 11:32:36 -0700
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david goerndt wrote:
>
> Steve Tack wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone tell me the main differences between Poser and Humanoid?  I'm
> > considering Poser, since it's cheaper ($90), but I know nothing about Humanoid,
> > other than it appears to be a similiar program.  I'd mostly like to know which
> > one works better with Lightwave.  Thanks!
> >
> > Steve Tack
>
> I have Poser, and just for fun and my own info , I made a figure in Poser
> then exported a DXF to LW. All the polys are double-sided and flipped,
> which is not a problem. The resolution of the feature  isn't very good.
> So its not very useful for anything close-up. You can morph between poses
> created in Poser. For the price, its a good tools to play with, but it
> doesn't create good human models.


I've been playing with some Poser figures for a few days and found that SOMETIMES they're
morphable. Don't count on it though since the figures sometimes have different polygon counts or
point orders.
I have found that they don't look bad if you metaform them though.

Jeff H...

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From: [e-mail] (James L. Arthurs/Image Shoppe)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Abekas Driver/Amiga
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To: [e-mail]

es: 14
C >
C >Hey, does anyone out there know the proper shell command for batch
C >loading Abekas frames back onto a hard drive from Exabyte tape? The
C >ASDG command supplied with their driver does not work...(SAVING batch
C >frames to the Exabyte in Abekas format is fully functioning, through
C >FRED, but pulling batches back in isn't.) The faulty supplied command
C >is:

    Here's a quick AREXX script I use for just this task.  It saves out
IFF images, but can be easily modified to scale, crop, and generally do
anything you need it to do.

    Make sure you have AREXX and ADPRO running, and simply edit the
script to reflect your paths, directory, and filename.  After editing,
type " RX <name of script> " from the shell.

    It isn't eloquent, but it's worked well enough for the last three years...


    ________________________

/*  Load and save from Exabyte  */

OPTIONS RESULTS
address "ADPro"

basename = "DH0:IMAGES/FLYBY"  /* Replace with your path, ending with */
                               /* your file basename.....             */

do i = 1 to 100                /* change to match the range of frames*/
                               /* you wish to grab from the tape...  */

say i
fnum=i
fnam = basename
c = lastpos("/",fnam)
if c = 0 then c = lastpos(":",fnam)
file=substr(fnam, c + 1)
path=left(fnam,c)
frame=right(trim(fnum),4,"0")
newfile = fnam || frame


LFORMAT "ABEKAS"
LOAD "XXX" "FRAME" Frame INTERLACED


SFORMAT "IFF"
SAVE newfile RAW

say newfile

end

________________________

    ...good luck!  E-mail with any questions...



JIM ARTHURS
IMAGE SHOPPE
[e-mail]

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,rec.video.desktop
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singh wrote:
>
>  What I have been telling people is not to worry.  We are all
>                  Amiga lovers here.  Unlike ESCOM or even Commodore, VIScorp
>                  does not have a single IBM PC person in the development group.
>                  We are all solid Amigans from the very beginning.  Personally
>                  speaking, I don't plan on killing the Amiga.  In fact, I'm
>                  hoping to build one killer Amiga!
>
>                    Carl Sassenrath
>                    Director of Software, VIScorp
>                    URL: www.vistv.com
>
>                  PS: Please feel free to post or forward this anywhere and
>                  everywhere, as I am getting swamped with the same email
>                  question from so many dedicated Amigans.  Keep the faith!
>                  This is for the better!

I have used (but never owned) an Amiga, but i find it disturbing and
annoying that you assume that we all have / love them!

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From: [e-mail] (DIWT)
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Subject: Re: Poser or Humanoid?
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 I've used poser, It's good if you dont need alot of detail for your human
figure.
 I think humanoid is the way to go if you're going to get up close.
 A couple of draw backs to poser are a low polygon count (hence low
detail) and
 non-symetrical (sp?) polygonal anatomy (especialy the head) wich makes it
a bit difficult to add detail. Oh, also the bump maps are pretty low
resolution wich makes
them difficult to work with in my opinion.

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 I'd agree with playing with the specular and diffusion settings.
 The other way would remove any shadowing on the objects (full ambient and
 luminosity).
 However this is a personal preference...

 Ed

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Subject: Re: Wacom tablets and Lightwave
Date: 26 May 1996 16:14:41 -0400
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 My wacom tablet acts erratic in layout still, sometimes when moving an
object up along the Y-axis, it'll get stuck in that mode. All I've been
able to do is restart layout.
 Anyone else have this happen?

 Ed

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Michael Powell wrote:

>
>         What I don't respect are people who don't make any effort
>         at caution, or worse, slamming others for being cautious.
>

    See, originally it was just a question from a novice user, who was me, but suddenly it comes to the
issue of privacy of software. That's okay with me because as I have justified to the public (the people who
want to know whether I am a private or not) that I am a legal LW user, but upon the above quoted statement I
just have one thing to say:

    Everything tends to be having 2 sides, and I believe that there are people who would not respect
people who make extra presumption to other people who they don't know, and like to slam those guys for being
over pre-cautious, which leads to misunderstanding and eventually some out of topic arguement.

    I appreciated the guy who trieda defend for me, but hey, do I sound angry or what (except the first
time I showed very upset because I couldn't boolean)? No, not a bit. Not because we are just strangers known
in the Net, but just because I know I am totally legal and people just misunderstood or misinterepted or
something. Surely, I don't really honor people who use private software, but I want to emphasis one thing that
my very original posting is a Boolean question. If people drag this posting and merge it with an
out-of-the-topic issue, well, to me it is just another non-responding message (i.e. not a sol. to my problem).
That is okay 'cuz I don't really expect people who don't know me to help me anyway; if they help, yes, I am
very appreciated, in fact, many people mail me some suggestions and I thank them wholeheartedly because they
care and consider this as helping a fellow 3Der while they don't connect this simple question to another
issue; lastly, if they just shift the concentration to trya find out whether I am an illegal user, I had
already justified to them thru a previous message, which I think that was enough.

    I don't want to create any fuss or something between 3D pals in the Net. The exchange of information
and knowledge is the main usage of this Internet newsgroup (at least I consider that). So, ... I don't know
what I have just written, but I just feel as if I am the one who causes a lot of people to argue and defend
for me. Hope you guys understand.



LSam
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From: David Dolinski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Lightwave 5.0 + Matrox Millenium + OpenGl = ???
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I should like to know if OpenGl of Lightwave 5.0 work with a Matrox
Millenium and Plug-in Microsoft OpenGl for Windows 95 ???

--
David Dolinski
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Brussels, Belgium.

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From: [e-mail] (Jeffery S. Jones)
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Subject: Re: '060 for Amiga 2000 ??
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On 21-May-96 23:50:08, Ralph Messana <[e-mail]> wrote:
GH>> Bob Bennett wrote:
GH>> >
GH>> > Anyone have any experience with a readily available 060 board
GH>> > (w/SCSI) for the Amiga 2000?  I'm looking for one.  It must work
GH>> > with V-Toaster and DPS PAR.
GH>> >
GH>> > Thanks for any advice.
GH>> >
GH>> > BobThe only readily available 060 board for the Amiga 2000 is the
GH>> TekMagic
GH>> 50MHz 060.  It has a very fast SCSI-2 controller on board and can
GH>> hold up to 128MB of RAM.  Requires AmigaDOS 3.1 and works well with
GH>> the above mentioned products.  Please contact Micro-PACE (where I
GH>> work) for the name of a dealer near you.  We are the distributors
GH>> for TekMagic products in North America.

>It requires 3.1? Boy does that bite. Kerry put 2 on back order for me,
>but I didn't know they required 3.1. I don't want to give Newtek
>something to blame for Flyer problems. Seems they haven't endorsd 3.1
>yet.

  3.0 or 3.1 is much nicer than 2.04, and is generally needed for the
040/060 library support used by most of the 060 cards.  However, the
reason that NewTek doesn't support 3.1 is that Commodore never released
a programmer's kit for it, and Amiga Tech never got one from Commodore,
so it isn't well documented.  But as far as I know, it is compatible
with 3.0.




GH>> Gene Heitman
GH>> Micro-PACE Sales/Product Support
GH>> www: www.mpace.com
GH>> email: [e-mail]
GH>> phone: [phone]
GH>> fax: [phone].

> * Q-Blue v0.7 [NR] *


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On 22-May-96 13:42:03, Sanjay Talreja <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Sorry to be posting on this group but does anyone know what happened to
>the Flyer mailing list that was being moderated by David Warner ? were
>people unsubscribed?

>i would like to get more mailiings as there were often interesting and
>useful flyer tips on the list.

  Both the Toaster (Flyer) and Lightwave mailing lists were moved to a new
server, [e-mail].  Some people were unsubscribed in the
process.  You can subscribe to the Toaster list by sending a message with the
line

  SUBSCRIBE TOASTER

in it.  Substitute 'LIGHTWAVE' for 'TOASTER' for the LW mailing list.  The
Toaster mailing list is oriented toward both Toaster and Flyer systems, and with
the 4.1 software, the actual software for the Flyer and Toaster are the same,
just the hardware is different.

--
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffery S. Jones)
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Subject: Re: No volumetric lightning in 5.0??
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On 26-May-96 11:21:49, GregorZoll <[e-mail]> wrote:
>i thought 5.0 comes with volumetric lightning?
>cant find it.

  No such plug-in comes with 5.0.  However, one was mentioned as being
in development, so it is possible that it will come along soon.  I don't
know if it will be included in LW, or be a separate program.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Power Texture and other stuff
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    Can some one tell me in a step-by-step way how to use powertexture? I
know how to launch it, manipulate the texture, save the texture
placement (although I am not sure on what to call it). The books don't
do a lot to explain the acutal proceedure. I thought that you just
placed the sucker and then saved it as a .srf file and loaded the
object into layout and loaded the .srf file for that texture but it
didn't seem to work......

Also, the poly-reduction plugin seems to be very good at drop vast
numbers of polygons with the annoying side effect of creating holes in
my objects....anyone know of GOOD settings to prevent this?

err...Thats all I can think of for now...

Thanks for any info!
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Dave Thomas)
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 00:31:00 GMT
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I need help in getting network cards for my two NT PC's. Any
recommendations (the cheaper the better) would be appreciated. They
will mainly be used for sharing files and running Screamer Net.
Thanks.


DT - MPix
"Just think of all the money you'll make down the road" - actual ex-employer quote
[e-mail]
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From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: LightWave 6.0 ?(wish list...)
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 11:47:10 -0400
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To: "William A. Mendez" <[e-mail]>

William A. Mendez wrote:
>
> How about a way to create an ajustable spline path in layout for your
> objects to follow (ie Animation Master), This will be better than
> moving objects,cameras etc. and creating keyframes for them.

Well, actually, you can do that from Modeler. Create a spline, and save
that spline as a Motion path.

Jean-Eric

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From: Mark Cretcher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PAR Hard Drives
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Dave,

Are you interested in a used PAR?  I have an Amiga PAR with the Seagate
540meg drive for sale. I'll sell it without the drive if you want a
better one.

Mark
[e-mail]

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From: John Brandwood <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Manuals?
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 17:41:53 -0700
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> Bryant Reif wrote:
>
> > John Brandwood wrote:
> >
> > I'd be very surprised if your LW CD has a serial number
> > printed on it. Perhaps you are thinking of the product ID number
> > which is a totally different thing.
>
> No I was refering to the serial # clearly printed on the dongle.  Ol Bluebeard claims
> he has a dongle and that NewTek won't give him new manuals because he doesn't have a
> serial #.  Hmm... so do you understand now?

Sorry, my brain wasn't working right. You are totally correct.

Its so long since I plugged the dongle into the back of my machine that I forget
exactly what it looked like. I did take a quick peek behind the machine, but since
my printer port is upside-down, all I saw was the Sentinal serial # printed on the
dongle, not the LW serial # sticker on the other side.

John.

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From: Elliot Bain <[e-mail]>
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LonerSam wrote:
>
> Michael Powell wrote:
>
> >
> >         What I don't respect are people who don't make any effort
> >         at caution, or worse, slamming others for being cautious.
> >
>
>         See, originally it was just a question from a novice user, who was me, but suddenly it comes to the
> issue of privacy of software. That's okay with me because as I have justified to the public (the people who
> want to know whether I am a private or not) that I am a legal LW user, but upon the above quoted statement I
> just have one thing to say:
>
>         Everything tends to be having 2 sides, and I believe that there are people who would not respect
> people who make extra presumption to other people who they don't know, and like to slam those guys for being
> over pre-cautious, which leads to misunderstanding and eventually some out of topic arguement.
>
>         I appreciated the guy who trieda defend for me, but hey, do I sound angry or what (except the first
> time I showed very upset because I couldn't boolean)? No, not a bit. Not because we are just strangers known
> in the Net, but just because I know I am totally legal and people just misunderstood or misinterepted or
> something. Surely, I don't really honor people who use private software, but I want to emphasis one thing that
> my very original posting is a Boolean question. If people drag this posting and merge it with an
> out-of-the-topic issue, well, to me it is just another non-responding message (i.e. not a sol. to my problem).
> That is okay 'cuz I don't really expect people who don't know me to help me anyway; if they help, yes, I am
> very appreciated, in fact, many people mail me some suggestions and I thank them wholeheartedly because they
> care and consider this as helping a fellow 3Der while they don't connect this simple question to another
> issue; lastly, if they just shift the concentration to trya find out whether I am an illegal user, I had
> already justified to them thru a previous message, which I think that was enough.
>
>         I don't want to create any fuss or something between 3D pals in the Net. The exchange of information
> and knowledge is the main usage of this Internet newsgroup (at least I consider that). So, ... I don't know
> what I have just written, but I just feel as if I am the one who causes a lot of people to argue and defend
> for me. Hope you guys understand.
>
> LSam
> --
> ********************************************************
> "It is not me who admits defeat, it is just God's will."
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]
> ********************************************************

What I don't understand in this whole mess is why there is such a lack of civility. Why is the
internet different than any other forum of discourse? The answer is obvious, it's because we can
be uncivil and not face any penalty for being so.

If you don't like pirates, fine. Ignore them. Do you think that venting will prevent anything?
But at least in the US, we have a tradition of presumed innocence. 'Yes, he had to be a pirate,
but no, we have no proof, he just asked the wrong question, so he must be.'

We get enough garbage here as it is. Flaming all over someone you think is a pirate just doesn't
further the topic of Lightwave, nor does it deter pirates. Probably the worst form of
retribution is silence. It's certainly more effective that subjecting the rest of us to tirades
against people without proof of guilt or innocence.

--
Elliot Bain
Laurell Creative Services
614.459.4404

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From: [e-mail] (Howard ST)
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Subject: change color over time?
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Is there any way to envelope texture settings? Other than texture
velocity, I can't find any way to do this. For example, say I have a
sphere, and I want it to change from red to blue to yellow and back to
red, over time. How would I accomplish this? I realize I could create
three spheres inside each other, one with each color and fade their object
disolve values over time, but surely there is a better way, no?  This is
so simple to do in many other programs.

Suggestions much appreciated.

Thanks

-H
-H

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From: [e-mail] (Howard ST)
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Subject: metamorph with metanurbs
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I have been playing with metanurbs, trying to create a sequence of morph
targets to animate character expressions. I could use a little help. Here
are the steps I have followed:

1) Created model of character face with metanurbs.
2) Froze model, exported as char1.lwo
3) Hit undo to go back to just nurbs (not frozen)
3) Tweaked face into a smile *only* by changing control poly locations
(didn't add any polys to reference object, didn't change options values).
4) froze again, exported as char2.lwo
5) repeated with eight different facial "poses."

Here's what I found: After bringing all eight into layout and trying to
set up metamoph targets, the first three models char1, 2 and 3 work
beautifully as metamorph targets, they all have the same number of polys
(4203 if I remember correctly), they morph great- I'm psyched...but....
After that, things get worse. Char4 *does* have the same number of polys
as 1, 2 and 3,  but when I morph to it, the model gets totally messed up
with points going everywhere, like my point order has been totally
randomized. Same with Char5. by Char6 I no longer even had exactly the
same number of polys, so metamorph wouldn't work at all...

Ok, so I'm trying to figure out what I did...why it worked at first...why
it stopped working....a few questions:

1) Will the same metanurbs model always yield the same number of polys or
does it vary? (assuming you don't add additional detail to the reference
shape or change the options for poly density). --- my experience is
*sometimes*...is there a logic that I can follow to try to keep the same
number of polys or is does it just *try* to keep the same number with no
real way to know?

2) Why is my point order sometimes getting messed up and sometimes not? As
far as I can tell, I am basically doing the same actions to get from
char1--> char2 --> char3, etc...that is I am moving points, resizing
polys, stretching, etc. Is there a specific xform that I should avoid that
would mess up the point order?

3) Am I just going about this the wrong way? Is the fact that I undo after
I freeze somehow messing things up? Is there a better process?

Any help appreciated! Thanks.

PS-- overall I love metanurbs.

-H
-H

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From: [e-mail](Alan Chan)
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Subject: Re: Strange LightWave 5.0 Bug? Don't Panic, This is not another worry posting L
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In <4oa5tc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (GKeenan818)
writes:
>
>In article <4o58kb$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail](Alan
>Chan) writes:
>
>>This results from 5.0 using absolute values instead of relative
values
>>for intensity falloff. Does your scene use envelopes for either light
>>intensity or falloff?
>>
>>AC
>
>The scene contains rather a large amount of envelopes for the light
>intensity/falloff.
>Is there some way around this apparent problem?


Right now the only workable solution is to load the same envelope into
the falloff radius and scale the envelope accordingly by eye.. There is
bound to be a formula for the switch, and we are in the process of
reviving old files, so I may have an answer within a week or so.
Otherwise, if you do find out, please post it.

AC


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Subject: Re: metanurbs w. Metamorph
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In <4oa1h3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Howard ST)
writes:
>
>Hmmmm....I posted this question 2 days ago but it never seems to have
>arrived
>on the newsgroup. AOL flakiness maybe...
>
>Well here goes again:
>
>I have been trying to create a sequence of metamorph targets using
>metanurbs.
>I am getting somewhat inconsistent results and I'm curious if anybody
has
>any
>advice:
>
>Here is what I've done:
>
>1) Created a Character  head with facial features using metanurbs.
>2) Froze to polys.
>3) Saved as Char1.lwo
>4) hit undo to remove frozen polys and go back to metanurbs.
>5) Tweaked face into a smile using metanurbs
>6) Froze to polys.
>7) Saved out as char2.lwo
>8) Hit undo to go back to metanurbs
>9) Tweaked to next facial expression, froze, save (char3.lwo) undo,
etc.


Howard,

This is exactly what metamation was intended for. Instead of saving out
16 or whatever frozen metanurb objects, save out a master one, and
tweak and save your cages to use as morph targets... try it, you'll
love it.

AC


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From: [e-mail] (Jeffery S. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,rec.video.desktop
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On 26-May-96 15:47:12, David Moffitt <[e-mail]> wrote:
>singh wrote:
>>
>>  What I have been telling people is not to worry.  We are all
>>                  Amiga lovers here.  Unlike ESCOM or even Commodore,
>>                  VIScorp does not have a single IBM PC person in the
>>                  development group. We are all solid Amigans from the very
>>                  beginning.  Personally speaking, I don't plan on killing
>>                  the Amiga.  In fact, I'm hoping to build one killer Amiga!
>>
>>                    Carl Sassenrath
>>                    Director of Software, VIScorp
>>                    URL: www.vistv.com
>>
>>                  PS: Please feel free to post or forward this anywhere and
>>                  everywhere, as I am getting swamped with the same email
>>                  question from so many dedicated Amigans.  Keep the faith!
>>                  This is for the better!

>I have used (but never owned) an Amiga, but i find it disturbing and
>annoying that you assume that we all have / love them!

  The quote above doesn't assume that _you_ have/love Amigas, but that VIScorp;s
director of software, and the whole VIScorp team, is made up of people who are
dedicated to this platform.  This is a "from the horse's mouth" quote, and is
quite encouraging to those who worry that their favorite computer platform might
die prematurely.  For video production, it remains a very cost-effective and
powerful choice, and having the chief of the new design team affirm his intent
to continue development of new and better systems is a very good sign.


--
*-__________________________ | *Starfire* | _________________________-*
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Thunk

(sound of my hand hitting my head).

Thanks I'll give it a whirl.

-H
-H

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From: [e-mail] (Fredie J. Layberger)
Subject: Re: Lightwave 5.0 + Matrox Millenium + OpenGl = ???
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In article <[e-mail]>, David Dolinski <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I should like to know if OpenGl of Lightwave 5.0 work with a Matrox
>Millenium and Plug-in Microsoft OpenGl for Windows 95 ???

It works for me. OpenGL is automatically installed when you install LW5.0 then
all you have to do is turn it on when you want it to be used. It's really nice
to have solid models displayed in layout... fred


>
>--
>David Dolinski
>[e-mail]
>Brussels, Belgium.

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hi,
Ken Geary ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Equinox II wrote:
: >
: > From PC Graphics and Video:
: > "Softimage 3D 3.0 requires a computer running Window NT 3.51 (with Service
: > Pack 2 installed) with at least 64 MB RAM, 1 GB free hard-disk space, and
: > an OpenGL-supported 3D graphics accelerator card.  It is priced at
: > approximately $7,995."
: >
: > So it's no lightwave, um, I mean lightweight as far as system requirements
: > are concerned.  Or cost.
: > --Brian
: > Equinox Images, Inc.
: > http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/

: I just received SI/NT (now I'm still waiting for the Intergraph-don't
: ask) and in the install booklet it states that you can use SI WITHOUT
: the openGL card but will adversely affect performance.  Still need at
: least 64MB ram (and a 3 button mouse).

    So..Pentium Pro is not required? As I know from the homepage of
  softimage, pentium pro is required...so.....and 32M ram with a P590
  is still not yet okay?

        Can you tell me the truth?

  Thanks in advance :)
  [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail](Alan Chan)
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In <4ob6rp$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Alan
Chan) writes:

>Howard,
>
>This is exactly what metamation was intended for. Instead of saving
out
>16 or whatever frozen metanurb objects, save out a master one, and
>tweak and save your cages to use as morph targets... try it, you'll
>love it.

Sorry, let me rephrase.. 'Save out a master one' meaning a metaformed
version of your cage object using the MetaformPlus plugin..

AC


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[e-mail] wrote:
>
>         Can some one tell me in a step-by-step way how to use powertexture? I
> know how to launch it, manipulate the texture, save the texture
> placement (although I am not sure on what to call it). The books don't
> do a lot to explain the acutal proceedure. I thought that you just
> placed the sucker and then saved it as a .srf file and loaded the
> object into layout and loaded the .srf file for that texture but it
> didn't seem to work......
>
> Also, the poly-reduction plugin seems to be very good at drop vast
> numbers of polygons with the annoying side effect of creating holes in
> my objects....anyone know of GOOD settings to prevent this?
>
> err...Thats all I can think of for now...
>
> Thanks for any info!
> [e-mail]

This will seem a little round-a-bout but here'goes...
1.) Go to modeler load an object, any object. go to the
TOOLS/CUSTOM macro pulldown. Select PowerTexture. This will alow you to load
a *.BMP image file (and ONLY a a *.BMP image file). Then you use
the PowerTexture Plugin to visualy place position/orientation/size the
texture. Save the File.  2.) Go back to layout and load your object, go
to the surfaces panel and under shader select the file you saved for PT. It's
not what I would have come up with for a texture placement
plugin... But it works.

Brad Hayes
http://pacificnet.net/~bjayes

--
Brad Hayes
http://www.pacificnet.net/~bjhayes

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Again more Dongle Problems
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In article <4oa7d1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MarcMylar) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
>Subject: Re: Again more Dongle Problems
>Date: 26 May 1996 14:20:17 -0400

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:

>>Based upon the experiences posted here, I won't plug anything into the
>>backside of a LW dongle.  For any reason. Period.  Apparently some
>printers
>>have the nasty trait of "reprogramming" the dongle.  I think the price of
>an
>>additional parallel port ($20-40) or a switchbox ($20 or so - works for
>most
>>but not all parallel devices) is easily worth the peace of mind.
>>

>I may be living dangerously, but I've got two dongles (LightWave and
>Inscriber CG) connected to my printer port, and the only thing that I've
>had a problem with is INTERSVR (DOS).  I've had this setup for about a
>year.

>-Marc

Nobody has posted information about what printers have caused problems, but
the suggestion was that some printers seem to "re-program" the dongle.  What
amazes me about this is that no specific printers have been named and that no
warning has been issued by NewTek.  This makes me wonder if this whole claim
about printers killing dongles is actually true.  I intend to continue to
excercise caution though and will pony up for the extra parallel port.



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In article <4oat77$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dave Thomas) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Dave Thomas)
>Subject: Network Card Recommendations
>Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 00:31:00 GMT

>I need help in getting network cards for my two NT PC's. Any
>recommendations (the cheaper the better) would be appreciated. They
>will mainly be used for sharing files and running Screamer Net.
>Thanks.


>DT - MPix
>"Just think of all the money you'll make down the road" - actual ex-employer
>quote
>[e-mail]
>http://www.best.com/~dthomas/

If you are buying inexpensive cards, make sure they have 16K of buffer memory.
 Some do not, and this hurts performance significantly.  Other than that, make
sure they are NT approved hardware.





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From: [e-mail] (Michael Meshew)
Subject: Free copies of LIGHT-ROM 3 deadline is near.
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   The deadline for contributing your original Lightwave creations in
exchange for a free copy of LIGHT-ROM 3 ( 3 CD-ROM set ) is June 10th.

   For more details regarding either purchasing LIGHT-ROM 3 or
contributing a floppy of your own creations to receive a free copy, please
send email or call;

Michael Meshew
Graphic Detail
4556 South Third Street
Louisville, Ky. 40214  USA
1-800-265-4041
502-363-2986  voice & fax
[e-mail]



Thank You,

Michael Meshew


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> Ernie Wright <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Diamond surface......
>Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 03:13:11 -0400

>Jay Turberville wrote:

>> Well, I don't know if Encarta is really much of an authority, but it
>> says "The better glass imitations are cut and polished like true stones,
>> but cheaper counterfeits are molded in the form of brilliants and
>> consequently have rounded edges."  This implies that there should be no
>> rounded edges?

>I think they're referring to the edges shared by facets.  When the facets
>are made by polishing, the edges between them are sharp, but not so when
>the whole thing is made in a mold.

>- Ernie

I'll buy that.

I found that the outside surface had the "error" with the different degrees of
non-planar.  In each case, I found that if I removed the outside polygon and
remade it it would match the inside polygon.  Something else I noticed was
that a polygon that was .4% non-planar would be a little more or a little less
non-planar when I rotated the entire diamond around the Y axis.  It might
change to .3% nonplanar.  I suspect there must be rounding going on or perhaps
this is caused by the limitation of significant digits in floating point
caluculations?

Either way, the "diamond" is complete with double sides, correct angles,
and almost no non-planars (I decided to let anything .4% or below go) and I
have a simple test animation running now.  It is taking 30 mins per frame at
640x480 on a P100.  Trace reflections and Trace Refraction is on.  Low
anti-alias with adaptive at 10.

I added about 2 "units" of green to the inside surface and removed 2 "units"
of green from the outside surface to give a subtle hint of color.  I may play
with colored lights tomorrow or the next.

One thing your post did not mention was how tall the crown should be.  I
eyeballed it.  I'm sure that is how all the best diamond cutters do it.  :^)





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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: LightWave 6.0 ?(wish list...)
>Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 11:47:10 -0400

>William A. Mendez wrote:
>>
>> How about a way to create an ajustable spline path in layout for your
>> objects to follow (ie Animation Master), This will be better than
>> moving objects,cameras etc. and creating keyframes for them.

>Well, actually, you can do that from Modeler. Create a spline, and save
>that spline as a Motion path.

>Jean-Eric

Yes, but Animation Master allows you to adjust the spline path from within its
scene module which is a bit handier.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4ob4sh$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Howard ST) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Howard ST)
>Subject: change color over time?
>Date: 26 May 1996 22:43:29 -0400

>Is there any way to envelope texture settings? Other than texture
>velocity, I can't find any way to do this. For example, say I have a
>sphere, and I want it to change from red to blue to yellow and back to
>red, over time. How would I accomplish this? I realize I could create
>three spheres inside each other, one with each color and fade their object
>disolve values over time, but surely there is a better way, no?  This is
>so simple to do in many other programs.

>Suggestions much appreciated.

>Thanks

>-H
>-H

AFIK, the best way would be to morph two identical objects that have different
surfaces.  The problem is that surfaces morph only on the first morph sequence
so if you want to "go back" you will have to follow the first morph with an
object replace (replacing the original object) which allows you to start a new
morph and therefore a new surface change.



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In article <[e-mail]> Ernie Wright <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Diamond surface......
>Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 02:54:23 -0400

>Jay Turberville wrote:

>> Can anyone explain how two five point polygons that share the same
>> points can have different percentages of flatness.

>Stuart should probably answer this, since it depends on the method used
>to calculate non-flatness, but it probably has to do with points being
>considered in different orders on the two sides.  Ideally you'd like
>your planarity metric to be independent of things like point order.

>Oddly enough, my Foley & van Dam is open to the very page on which this
>is discussed.  I had non-planars in my diamond too, and I didn't want
>to diverge from the brilliant cut facet pattern by tripling.  (Man,
>non-planar polygons can really screw up booleans.)

>- Ernie

BTW - I dealt with my non-planars by creating a two point poly in a background
layer and using it as a guide.  I  then rotated the diamond on the Y axis to
bring the appropriate polygon in general alignment.  I then moved the
points of the poly in question so that they all fell on this background guide.
 It made me think that this is just the sort of thing needs a plugin.  "Make
Planar".

I didn't use booleans.  I built mine from scratch.  Except I did do a boolean
to "grind" off the bottom point.




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In a message dated 96-05-15 09:25:16 EDT, you write:

>It figures you would say so as soon as someone asked you to demonstrate
>your prowess....wimp.
>
>Joe Monahan

Ordinarily, I don't respond to incoherent, immature ravings of Net
babblers,
but for you, Josephine, I'll make an exception.

If you want to see examples of my work, I can point you to the following:

Go to www.coherentlight.com, and check out the Heaven stills and .AVI.
These
are low-res versions of the 35-second end sequence I did for the 1996
Autodesk NAB reel. The hi-res video version of the shot has received
praise from
several quarters, including friends of mine who are experts at Alias and
Softimage, as well as Bill George, a special effects supervisor at ILM and
a
1987 Academy Award Winner for "Innerspace." He's currently the Effects Art

Director for "Star Trek Generations: First Contact."

You might notice my name on the end credits of "Exorcist III: Legion,"
Terminator II," and "Honey, I Blew Up the Kid." You might also see my
name and published work in the manuals for 3D Studio Release 4,
in New Riders Publishing's "3D Studio Special Effects" book,
on the Autodesk 1991 SIGGRAPH reel, on Autodesk's 1994 NAB reel (the
last 30-second shot of the Diving Bell from "Voyage to the Bottom of the
Sea," ) and Autodesk's 1996 NAB reel (mentioned above).

Let's see... you can see spaceship designs and animation of mine in the
LucasArts games "Rebel Assault," "X-Wing," "TIE Fighter," and "The Dig,"
and models and animation for Sega of America's "Jurassic Park" and
"Wild Woody"  CD-ROM games.

In addition, you might check out the Images Library of the Kinetix forum
on
Compuserve. There's a ZIP file of mine there called "Klingon ship" which
depicts two images of a cool battlecruiser I built, in progress. You could
check out the ORACLE Magazine Athenia CD-ROM, from Oracle Corporation,
which features several huge 3D rooms I constructed in 3DS.

Let's see, what else? Well, if you're brave enough to show your face
around
SIGGRAPH, you might stop by the Ventana Publishing booth, where they'll be
showing off a 350-page book and CD-ROM called "3D Studio MAX f/x," written
by
yours truly, for which I got a dynamite advance and royalties that are
enabling my wife and me to take off the entire month of July to take a
round-the-world trip. (Hong Kong, Bali, Thailand, India, Italy, and
France.)
I'll see my first copy of the book while relaxing at the Hotel Luna on the
Isle of Capri; Ventana is going to Fed Ex me a copy to Europe.

So, Joe, when I'm sitting on a balcony overlooking the Mediterranean this
July, I'll be sipping a cool drink, looking at my new computer graphics
book
that paid for my trip, and thinking, "Boy--I wonder if that moron Joe
Monahan
is sitting in front of his computer back in the U.S. right now, making an
utter ass of himself on the Internet--again?"

-- Jon Bell

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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
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> Hey
>   I'm trying to find a suitible surface for griptape on a skateboard.
> Its black with hundreds of tiny shiny bumps.  I just can't seem to find
> the right surface.
> Any suggestions?
>

Er, sounds obvious but "fractal bumps"?

snouty

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Hi,

    I am currently working on my Higher School Certificate Art
Project, It is a 3D Animation which Im using Lightwave to do. I needed
humans in it, so I have spent the last 6 weeks waiting for a copy of
Humanoid to come in but alas there is trouble with the distributor.
    I accidently ran across a DXF of one of Fratcal Designs "poser"
models. It is quite good and I spent the day yesterday boning it. (I hadnt
delved into boning as yet (I know ive had LW for a year... :))
    It boned nicely and I can gte quite good movement, my only gripe
is getting it to run and walk properly with out looking wonky, can
anybody suggest a soloution, I know Humanoid has running figures but I
cant wait for it to get in so I have to go this way, and I really would
like to have fairly realistic walking and running. Thanks for you help
(if any can be given :)

                        Regards





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Jay Turberville wrote:

> Sure - now ya tell me.

I hate when that happens.

- Ernie



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Has anyone used PAR with Premiere? I've got all the stuff, but I haven't
tried to get it all working yet. I was just wondering if anyone had
doneit and knew any pitfalls. I heard that you can't edit sound with the
PAR and Premiere, is this true?

If you have any suggections as to where I can look int he manuals for
info about this then that would be welcome too.

regards

Phil

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David Moffitt <[e-mail]> wrote:

>singh wrote:
>>
>>  What I have been telling people is not to worry.  We are all
>>                  Amiga lovers here.  Unlike ESCOM or even Commodore, VIScorp
>>                  does not have a single IBM PC person in the development group.
>>                  We are all solid Amigans from the very beginning.  Personally
>>                  speaking, I don't plan on killing the Amiga.  In fact, I'm
>>                  hoping to build one killer Amiga!
>>
>>                    Carl Sassenrath
>>                    Director of Software, VIScorp
>>                    URL: www.vistv.com
>>
>>                  PS: Please feel free to post or forward this anywhere and
>>                  everywhere, as I am getting swamped with the same email
>>                  question from so many dedicated Amigans.  Keep the faith!
>>                  This is for the better!

>I have used (but never owned) an Amiga, but i find it disturbing and
>annoying that you assume that we all have / love them!

"Disturbing and annoying?"  Not that he was talking about anyone other
than the crew at VIScorp., but you need to look into Prozac or
something if the notion of being labeled an Amiga user affects you
that much.


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From: Eddie <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Any realistic human model on the net?
Date: 27 May 1996 12:27:14 GMT
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Have anyone found any realistic male human figure on the net.
Pls let me know its location. Thanks.

Eddie Quah
CyberTech


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From: [e-mail] (Dahcoata)
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Subject: Help!  Need Flyer 4.07 install disks
Date: 27 May 1996 08:53:24 -0400
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Greetings.

I hope someone out there save your old 4.07 Flyer install disk (2 of
them).  I did not and now I need them.

If anyone can help me I would appreciate it.

Please send e-mail

Thanks

Gary

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From: [e-mail](Michael C. Ling)
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Subject: Re: Realistic Human Movement.
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On May 27, 1996 07:34:09 in article <Realistic Human Movement.>,
'[e-mail] (V Teahan)' wrote:


>    It boned nicely and I can gte quite good movement, my only gripe
>is getting it to run and walk properly with out looking wonky, can
>anybody suggest a soloution, I know Humanoid has running figures but I

You could get a book on animatiion in the library, and record some
animation on tv and look at them frame by frame. Also buy some cheap memo
pads and make a flip book animation of some stick figures running.

--
M C L -
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mike_Ling

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From: [e-mail] (Saeba, Ryo)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: cel shader
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B Hayes <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Howard ST wrote:
>>
>> A minor tip regarding getting a flat 2-d cartoon style look in Lightwave--
>>
>> I've been playing around with the cel shader, which does a nice job of
>> creating key lines ala a cartoon. I wanted to get the flattest look
>> possible and I was finding that the Cel shader made my images look
>> posterized and showed too many bands of color to look like a cartoon
>> (which is usually mostly flat color).
>>
>> I solved this problem by deleting all lights and turning the last one's
>> level to 0 and then cranking up the ambient light. No directionality of
>> light, no shadows, no  variation in surface color (and no need for the cel
>> shader particularily).
>>
>> Gave me the look I was going for...
>>
>> ..I also cranked the luminosity on some of my objects some  which gave me
>> object by object "brightness" control.
>>
>> Kind of obvious I guess, but hey, isn't everything once you know how to do
>> it?
>>
>> -H
>> -H
>I needed a Cel-Shared about a year and a halph before i new what one was.
>Your technique was exactly hou I got around it. Hey have you noticed that
>the Cel-Look out line Looks like crap or is it just me. I had played with
>the Exparimental Feature under 4.0 and I thought it looked much better.
>Could just be me though...
>--
>Brad Hayes
>http://www.pacificnet.net/~bjhayes


I sincerily hopy it is just you, as a big anime head I have been
experimenting wiyth the cell look as well and getting spectacular
results! I can post pictures to show the technique if need be.... I
needed this thing five years ago, but am super happy to have it now
and will make the maximum use of it!


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From: [e-mail] (Ralph Schoberth)
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Subject: searching NCC1701-D
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Hello,
I'm serrching a real looking Object Enterprise NCC1701-D for Lightwave.
Who can help?
Ralph


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: My upset is over ...
Date: 27 May 1996 13:17:46 GMT
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Elliot Bain ([e-mail]) wrote:
: LonerSam wrote:
: >
: > Michael Powell wrote:
: >
: > >
: > >         What I don't respect are people who don't make any effort
: > >         at caution, or worse, slamming others for being cautious.
: > >
: >
: >         See, originally it was just a question from a novice user, who was me, but suddenly it comes to the
: > issue of privacy of software. That's okay with me because as I have justified to the public (the people who
: > want to know whether I am a private or not) that I am a legal LW user, but upon the above quoted statement I
: > just have one thing to say:

: What I don't understand in this whole mess is why there is such a lack of civility. Why is the
: internet different than any other forum of discourse? The answer is obvious, it's because we can
: be uncivil and not face any penalty for being so.

    Wait! Didn't you just say that you don't under stand it?  :-)

    But in all candor, there is a _very_ good reason for the breakdown
    of civility often witnessed on the internet that is an important
    part of discussion/interaction for reasons too far off topic
    to be considered here.

: If you don't like pirates, fine. Ignore them. Do you think that venting will prevent anything?
: But at least in the US, we have a tradition of presumed innocence. 'Yes, he had to be a pirate,
: but no, we have no proof, he just asked the wrong question, so he must be.'

    It's more like, "he ased an unusual question so he might be".

: We get enough garbage here as it is. Flaming all over someone you think is a pirate just doesn't
: further the topic of Lightwave, nor does it deter pirates. Probably the worst form of
: retribution is silence. It's certainly more effective that subjecting the rest of us to tirades
: against people without proof of guilt or innocence.

    Except that's not what happened.
    Piracy was not mentioned.  There were no flames.

    For your review:

       "Perhaps you should read the manual.  You claim to have done this,
       but your steps above are not what the manual tells you to do, so either
        you did not actually read it, or you ignored what it said."

    No flamage... no accusations of piracy... just some 'advice' that is
    not *directly* helpful, but correct none the less.  More
    importantly, it is a message which cautions everyone of a
    _potential_ problem with ownership.... making the message food
    for thought for everyone else.

    What the message also does is to challenge the questioner
    to revisit the manual, and if the manual still does not hold
    the answer, to present the unclear elements of the manual
    for our consideration and advice. (Ex: the manual says do x,y,z,
    and I do x,y,z, but no joy).

    If you are going to argue that the 'tone' lacked civility, well
    I have no intention of participating in a discussion that has
    degraded to that level... almost like kids complaining "Mom! she's
    looking at me!".

    Tone is not a big enough issue to warrent such attention.

    So let's all put on our thick skin and get over it.

    -mp-

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From: [e-mail](Brenden Mecleary )
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I was just playing around with the Ring Size option in the Lens Flare
panel, and it appears that using an envelope to change the size of a
lens flare ring doesn't quite work.  I doubt this is a one-time thing,
since I've tried on several different occasions with the same results.
Anyways, here's how I did it:

Create a point light
Give it a color (if necessary)
Click on "lens flare", then go into the lens flare control panel
Turn off "random streaks" and "red outer glow"
Give the ring a color (again, if necessary)
Go into the envelope for the "Ring Size", and make an envelope for the
   ring
Test-render a few frames...the ring doesn't change size!

Has anyone else run into this?  Is there a fix?

                             Brenden Mecleary
                             [e-mail]
                             http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1979/


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From: [e-mail] (Saeba, Ryo)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Great Combo... Metanurbs and Cel Shader
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I read some articles of people finding the Cel Shaders to be a bit
unpleasant as far as the results....


I can see that when taking some of your models meant for photoreal
rendering and trying to make cartoons of them....

I took some of my human models meant for realisitc rendering and cel
shaded them and though they looked good they looked to good to be a
hand drawn cartoon.... to deep a level of shading...

As an anime head I found modeling figures (human) with metanurbs for
smoother softer curves makes for better shaded characters... The anime
effect has been acheived to some some degree...

They make a great combo and I see this as the road to travel to
perfect organic modeling for the cartoon look....


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From: [e-mail] (Saeba, Ryo)
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Subject: So what is the staus of the Amiga?
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Although I traitored to the PC long ago I still have hopes for the
Amiga and dream of the day when I can comfortbly get back into one....

where do they stand now? I been seeing posts about being sold again?
**************************** City Hunter***********************************
I don't give a damn about my children or my grandchildren!
All I cares about is me!
And if Gangster run this country, then I'm going to be a gangster!

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From: [e-mail] ("Glyn Williams")
Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic graphics card?
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> 5440 PCI MPEG GRAPHICS ADAPTOR
>
> When I attempt a LightWave- Layout Preview in wire frame.  I get the
> preview but w/ a black strobing effect. I'm wondering if I purchased
> older software for this card. (2-DRAM)
>
> Does anyone know how to get a hold of this company (Cirrus Logic)?
>
> Thanks
> Blake
I had exactly this same problem with another Cirrus Logic card. I would
therefore conclude that it is a problem in the Cirrus driver, rather than
the Lightwave code.
You might be able to find revised versions of the Cirrus Driver - perhaps
by searching for a web page.

Glyn Williams

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From: [e-mail] (Malcolm Lavery)
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Hello!...

I'v been haveing quite some bother with an anim that I'm producing.

What I have, are lots of Wasps, flying around a jam jar, and one inside.

And there is a partical beam comming out of the top of the jar into the sky.

Right!, my problem is that I need to have a lense flare inside the jam jar
just in the lid section were the partical beam starts.

But what ever I do, it looks really bad, I'v set the glass jar object to cast
no shadows, but it still looks unprofessional.

I need a nice high intensity glow/flare inside the jar top, any ideas.

Thanks.

--
Mal!! :)


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From: [e-mail] (Jeffery S. Jones)
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Subject: Re: WinImages FX
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On 24-May-96 03:01:53, roadie <[e-mail]> wrote:
>On Tue, 07 May 1996 18:41:44 -0700, [e-mail] wrote:

>>Any opinions about WinImages?  Does it work well for batch processing,
>> special effects over frames, preparation of animations for video
>>output?
>>
>>Thanks

>WinImages is the buggiest thing I have ever used.
>After buying it :(  within a week I documented so many bugs they put
>me on the beta list. The betas are still buggy. Biggest problem is
>similar to early 4.0LW's inability to "cleanup" memory usesage in
>Win95. Although Blackbelt and others blame the MS compilers for this I
>have noticed Alan got the problem out of LW. What this clean up
>problem results in is say after 300 frames of rendering, is low memory
>requesters, that's after 40Megs of Ram and 100 megs of disk Ram.....
>Besides that there are window draw errors, tool boxes that don't go
>away with WI and more. If you reduce, the scaling is low quality but
>if you negative enlarge it works better?? One thing that works kind of
>cool but still buggy is the screen grab function to grab other progs
>demo screens. Made them into Framestores for a Toaster project, worked
>well if ADPro did the FS making. I franky think Black Belt has HUGE
>balls to release their product for $500 on something as permanent as
>CD Rom. Don't get me totally wrong, they are on the right track, have
>some good ideas, and support is pretty responsive, I just think they
>need some more $ funding. Owning it has been a very frustrating
>experience though while counting on its batching to do a project.
>Thank god I still had an Amiga networked in and good ole ADpro with
>way awesome arexx!

  Winimages FX Amiga incarnation, as Imagemaster, had a few bugs as
well, but great support and a solid series of useful upgrades.  Its
price was a bit lower than $500, however.  They do try to put as many
options into the package as possible, especially if you have the time to
figure out how to program the thing.

--
*-__________________________ | *Starfire* | _________________________-*
Jeff Jones  email:[e-mail]  *//* Amiga Lives! |Born
*TFG* *Starfire* Design Studio        *\\//* 1985-1994,    |again 1995!
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On 27-May-96 09:19:01, Saeba, Ryo <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Although I traitored to the PC long ago I still have hopes for the
>Amiga and dream of the day when I can comfortbly get back into one....

>where do they stand now? I been seeing posts about being sold again?

  VIScorp bought Amiga Tech, and is continuing development and sales
without any cuts announced at this time, and is talking about market
expansion.

  See www.vistv.com  {hope that's right}
  or  www.amiga.de   {I know this one's right}

  for more info.

--
*-__________________________ | *Starfire* | _________________________-*
Jeff Jones  email:[e-mail]  *//* Amiga Lives! |Born
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From: David Dolinski <[e-mail]>
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Fredie J. Layberger wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, David Dolinski <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >I should like to know if OpenGl of Lightwave 5.0 work with a Matrox
> >Millenium and Plug-in Microsoft OpenGl for Windows 95 ???
>
> It works for me. OpenGL is automatically installed when you install LW5.0 then
> all you have to do is turn it on when you want it to be used. It's really nice
> to have solid models displayed in layout... fred
>

O.K. thanks for your answer but Lightwave 5.0(OpenGl) works on Windows
95 or Windows NT.

Thanks

David

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From: David Dolinski <[e-mail]>
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Yes, Someone know if a shop sales Lightwave 5.0 Full Version (not the
Upgrade) in the world with the best little price.

--
David Dolinski
[e-mail]
Brussels, Belgium.

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In article <4nsnrg$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>>
>>> are any of these shipping yet?
>>
>>NURBS and Metaballs are both shipping for 3DSr4. You will have to wait till
>>Q2 to get the MAX version. 4DVison is having a special right now on the
NURBS
>>modeler. If you buy the 3DSr4 version at either $395 or $495(I forget which)
>>you get the MAX version for free.
>
>Well that doesn't help me any and these plugins weren't great from what I
saw.
>However the Max interface is so cool that they may make great plugs for Max,
>especially with construction histories and the modeless environment.
>
>
>>Yup, they can be both a blessing and a major pain in the ass. If it help
any,
>>Autodesk is promising more renderers for MAX. My guess is there will be a
>raytracer
>>to compete with LW and SI. There have also been rumors of a shaders based
>renderer
>>similar to Renderman, and a raydiosity renderer(This could be from
>Lightscape).
>
>Well I hope these becomes a part of an upgrade instead of a seperate plugin.
>I find the lack bones in Max a bit annoying.  Even very inexpensive apps have
>bones and they are usefull for way more than characters.  I am a bit
concerned
>that this reflects a future trend.  Is Autodesk not going to include
>what are now basic features in Max just because there was a plugin for it in
>r4?  When I added up a projected cost of adding enough plugins to Max to get
>near SI its way significantly more expensive than SI. hmmm... Obvious there
>are advantages to not having to pay it all at once and you may not need
>certain features, but....
>
>>> This may create some confusion though since a portion of this thread is
>>> dedicated to people proving that Max's renderer is substantially different
>>> that r4's.
>>
>>Yes they improved it significantly. In fact about 95% of it has been
recoded.
>But
>>it is still just a monster upgrade to 3DSr4. In some ways you could argue
>that it is
>>a whole different program, but you could argue that it is just r4 on
steriods
>too :)
>>
>
>I would vote for "different" program.  Though it inevitably uses some of the
>same algorithms like "rotate", the total structure and programming approach
is
>completely different to me.  This is what I like about Max, very well
designed
>(IMHO).
>
>
>Q:(for those of you have actually used Max)  How is the texture mapping?  Can
>I map a (complex)24bit image without *any* blur or color/quality loss?  This
>was a prob for me in r4.
>
blur can be adjusted to suit your needs.24 bit is no problem now,
renderer works with 64 bit colour,so it is much more subtle.major improments
in other areas as well.


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From: Mike Jew <[e-mail]>
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where can i find free meshes besides meshmart etc?

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From: [e-mail](Brenden Mecleary )
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Subject: Re: Need help - Cloak/Decloak effect from B5 using LW ver 4.0
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In <4odgvn$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>I am working on an amature video project and need to use the cloaking
>effect from B5. Any help is appreciated. Email or post to this group.
>Thanks.

Pretty simple, actually:

-First, in modeler, subdivide your object as much as you desire.  The
more you subdivide, the smoother the "squiggles" at the edges when you
have the object cloak/decloak.
-Then, Triple the object, so that all the polygons are triangles.  Save
this object.
-Next, go into layout.  Set up a dissolve envelope (objects panel), and
go from 100% to 0% (decloak) or vice versa (to cloak the object) over
the number of frames you want.
-Put a Displacement Map (objects panel again) on your object.  I
typically use "Ripples" for this.  Give it an envelope for the
amplitude.  If you're cloaking the object, make the amplitude increase
over the duration of the cloak.  If you're decloaking it, make the
amplitude decrease to 0, so that it's back to normal by the time it's
fully visible.

                             Brenden Mecleary
                             [e-mail]
                             http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1979/

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From: John Reddington <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Lightwave pro book in the UK
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Just to let everyone know that I received my Lightwave Pro book on
Saturday. It looks really good and the CD is jammed with
examples. Pity I can't try it just now but it's a
Saturday and the pub is calling:-)

I still can't understand why it took sooo Looong to get to the UK.
I'm definitely going to be a lot more careful and choosy before I order
goods for Lightwave. It just seems that the service offered by a lot
(though not all!) of companies dealing with Lightwvae related
products (or maybe 3D in general) just don't give a shit about service
to the customers. It's probably because they tend to be small
companies dealing with a niche market. Thgough maybe this should prompt
them to be give a better service to the small number of customers that
they have.

In the 5 months since the book was ordered, Avid never once contacted
me by phone or email to explain why the book was late. It was left to
me to phone across the Atlantic to find out why THEY couldn't do
their job.

I still think the service stinks........


But then again the book looks really good :-)



email [e-mail]

"Always remember that you're unique. Just like
veryone else!!"

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From: david goerndt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: change color over time?
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Howard ST wrote:
>
> Is there any way to envelope texture settings? Other than texture
> velocity, I can't find any way to do this. For example, say I have a
> sphere, and I want it to change from red to blue to yellow and back to
> red, over time. How would I accomplish this? I realize I could create
> three spheres inside each other, one with each color and fade their object
> disolve values over time, but surely there is a better way, no?  This is
> so simple to do in many other programs.
>
> Suggestions much appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> -H
> -H


I'm glad you asked! I once had a PAR and Amiga 4000 with LW3.5. and I
wanted to be able to envelope surface attributes. The method I came up
with requires a PAR or similar device that allows you to seamlessly join
frames together. Here goes, first determine how long you want the effect
to be, then how much of a change you want(this can all be eyeballed if
you want) render a frame, tweak the settings, render a frame, etc., you
get the idea. Pain in the ass, but it does work. I have a short anim that
I enveloped all of the surface settings, luminosity, diffuse specular,
reflective and some others. Now if this sounds like stop motion
animation, it is, just as tedious, but you do get results. Color fading
is probably the most tedious because you have three sliders to keep track
of, so you might want to preplan the color fade with RGB numbers to get
it right the first time. You do not want to make a mistake.Others say
that morph surfaces will work, probably, but with this method you don't
have to set up any morphs, just have a lot of patience!

ers

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Need help - Cloak/Decloak effect from B5 using LW ver 4.0
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I am working on an amature video project and need to use the cloaking
effect from B5. Any help is appreciated. Email or post to this group.
Thanks.


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From: [e-mail] (guy pensart)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave 4.0 won't save AVI files on PC
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[e-mail] (Andy C) wrote:

>Why is it doing this? I have got the tha HIIP-avi16 plug-in set up. I also
>tryed the AVI_256 plugin but that reports an error with one of the DLL files.

>HIIP-avi16 just does not create an AVI file even though it renders and seems
>to be saving to disk after each frame.

>Someone please help.

that's becoz, lw replaces avifill32.dll when installing, just
reinstall the multimedia group (win95) i guess ?
so it's best to make a backup of the original windows dll, for future
problems ;)

have fun





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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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Subject: Re: Flairs in between transparent surfaces
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Hmm..map an image of a flare onto a polygona nd put it in the jar???


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david goerndt wrote:
> I'm glad you asked! I once had a PAR and Amiga 4000 with LW3.5. and I
> wanted to be able to envelope surface attributes. The method I came up
> with requires a PAR or similar device that allows you to seamlessly join
> frames together. Here goes, first determine how long you want the effect
> to be, then how much of a change you want(this can all be eyeballed if
> you want) render a frame, tweak the settings, render a frame, etc., you
> get the idea. Pain in the ass, but it does work. I have a short anim that
> I enveloped all of the surface settings, luminosity, diffuse specular,
> reflective and some others. Now if this sounds like stop motion
> animation, it is, just as tedious, but you do get results. Color fading
> is probably the most tedious because you have three sliders to keep track
> of, so you might want to preplan the color fade with RGB numbers to get
> it right the first time. You do not want to make a mistake.Others say
> that morph surfaces will work, probably, but with this method you don't
> have to set up any morphs, just have a lot of patience!
>
> ers

You seriously did this?  I would have went for morphing or an image map w/ velocity
before tweeking every frame by hand.  Yikes! =:o
--

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mailto:[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Barrilleaux)
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Subject: What is 5.0 feature list
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As it says.  What new that's worth 500 big ones for us amatures

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From: [e-mail](Jeffrey S. Haynie )
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Subject: Re: FIX YOUR OWN CREDIT...
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(CreditWeb) writes:
>
>DON'T PAY ANYONE TO FIX YOUR CREDIT.  FIX IT YOURSELF.
>
>No one can do anything to fix your credit that you can't do yourself.
>That is a fact!
>
>The so called "credit clinics" charge consumers hundreds, even
thousands
>of dollars to "fix" credit files.  DON'T PAY them...  You can repair
your
>own credit.
>
>According to most members of the banking industry, negative
information
>can not be removed from a consumers credit file.  THEY ARE LYING.
>
>We will provide you with the knowledge and tools needed to repair your
own
>credit for a one time LOW price.  You will receive a comprehensive
step by
>step instruction set detailing proven, and successful methods for
removing
>negative information from credit reports.  Also included are sample
>letters and tips for nearly every credit situation.  These are EXACTLY
the
>same methods that the so called "credit clinics" use.
>
>You will be surprised how easy this is, and how little time it takes.
>
>Take Action TODAY!
>
>Send a check  or money order for $6.95, plus $1 shipping and handling
to:
>
>CreditWEB
>PO Box 2364
>Youngstown, OH 44509-0364
First of all this crap doesn't belong in this newsgroup.  Second I have
worked in the Credit industry for the last ten years and for the
edification of all interested parties - CREDIT REPAIR COMPANIES are
illegal in most states and there is lobbying in most others to outlaw
these agencies.

If the data reported about you is correct then there is not much you
can do except wait most credit information must be removed after 7
years.  If the data is wrong then contact your local credit bureau and
they will investigate the reported information at no charge to you!!

Besides why pay these yokels when you can obtain the information from
the credit agencies for free or from the Federal Trade Commission, the
agency that regulates the credit industry.  Now back to the Lightwave
topics.

If anyone wants more info then email me.

Cheers,

Jeff Haynie

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Caviello)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Correct size to display video in Modeller BG image?
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    When you display a BG image in modeller, especially for the purpose of
creating  polygons to be Front projection mapped in layout - I was
wondering what the correct image size should be set to, so everyting
lines up properly when you load the image into layout's background.

    Assuming, I'm going to render at D2, I've been setting the size of my
image in modeller to 1.346 meters by 1 meter, based on the aspect
ratio for a D2 frame in layout.  I'm not sure If I'm correct because I
could swear I had read in an old LW pro, that the proper procedure was
to make a box some other size and use that as the basis for image
size.  Thank you for any help you can provide.


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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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Just a guess..between 1-2 full months.
Ahhh..I envy Lw SGI 5.0 users!!! OpenGL on that should be reaall nice.
Adam
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Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:

> I found that the outside surface had the "error" with the different
> degrees of non-planar.  In each case, I found that if I removed the
> outside polygon and remade it it would match the inside polygon.

When I need double sided models, I usually build using single sides,
and when I'm satisfied with the shape, I copy the whole thing to an
empty layer, flip, copy back and merge points.  Actually messing with
double-sided polygons makes me nervous for some reason.

> Something else I noticed was that a polygon that was .4% non-planar
> would be a little more or a little less non-planar when I rotated the
> entire diamond around the Y axis.  It might change to .3% nonplanar.
> I suspect there must be rounding going on or perhaps this is caused
> by the limitation of significant digits in floating point calucula-
> tions?

The rounding is happening in two places.  The calculation itself is
done with limited precision, and depending on how it's done, it might
not be completely independent of the polygon's orientation.  The very
small error term from the calculation can get magnified by the polygon
info display, which only shows non-flatness to a tenth of a percent.
0.0034999 gets printed as 0.3%, but 0.0035001 gets printed as 0.4%.

> Either way, the "diamond" is complete with double sides, correct
> angles, and almost no non-planars (I decided to let anything .4% or
> below go) and I have a simple test animation running now.  It is
> taking 30 mins per frame at 640x480 on a P100.  Trace reflections
> and Trace Refraction is on.  Low anti-alias with adaptive at 10.

Whew.  Trace reflections with AA is really hammering your render time.
For testing, I've turned trace refraction on but trace reflection and
AA are off.  320 x 240 takes about 17 seconds on my P133.  But I bet
your images are prettier than mine.

BTW, I found the lower gloss settings work better, which is counter-
intuitive, but it spreads the specularity over a larger area.  I'm not
sure I understand what's going on there.

> I added about 2 "units" of green to the inside surface and removed
> 2 "units" of green from the outside surface to give a subtle hint
> of color.  I may play with colored lights tomorrow or the next.

I tried colored lights, but it didn't do what I was hoping for--the
rainbow edges and sparkles.  I think these'll have to be done with an
even fakier approach.

> One thing your post did not mention was how tall the crown should
> be.  I eyeballed it.  I'm sure that is how all the best diamond
> cutters do it.  :^)

Probably is.  I couldn't find anything on the height of the crown,
so I eyeballed it too.  Looks roughly a third of the height of the
base.  Either I got lucky, or this isn't critical to getting the
refraction to work.

- Ernie



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 * Dit bericht forwarded van area 'LIST.LIGHTWAVE' (LIST.LIGHTWAVE)
 * Origineel bericht van 22 May 96, van Jeroen van Velsen

Howdy,

Does anyone know which motherbord for the Pentium Pro is safe
to buy? (Without the bug in the chipset, which reduces the PCI
speed from 50mb/s to 5mb/s)

I heard that some people noticed this when plugging in a Matrox
instead of a simple graphics card. There was NO graphics speed
increase!

As I understand this bug was/is in the Intel Aurora and the Orion
chipset.

If anyone knows anything, please let me know because I'm about
to purchase a LW killer Pentium Pro 200 system, but I don't
want a faulty motherbord. (Or have to replace it)

Thanks in advance.

Greetings,

Jeroen van Velsen (NETMAIL: 14:101/101.8)
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In a message of 24 May 96 Microtech wrote to All:


 >>> Hi All!

 >>> I am in the process of purchasing a PAR for my Amiga, so I'll be in the
 >>> market for a hard drive.  Is the Quantum Fireball one of the better
 >>> drives for this system, or are there better, newer hard drives?


 >>>                                        -Dave
 >>>                                         [e-mail]


 M> Quantum makes both SCSI and IDE versions of the Fireball. And the IDE
 M> Fireball works wonderfully with the PAR - *very* fast transfer rates,
 M> allowing a higher Q-Factor setting.

There is a litle problem using the quantum fireball with the amiga PAR.
It won't work, the Fireball is not supported on the Amiga version.
We use version 2.5 of the PAR software and we can't use our Fireball's
with it. Our dealer admitted this problem and told us only the PC PAR
can use the cheap and fast Firball.

Try to get hold of a SEAGATE ST31220A Medalist. Very cheap (In Holland
you can get one for about $300), not as good our micropolis AV drives
(In Holland these are priced around $700) but we are using it with a
respectable blocklimit setting of 240. On the outer tracks you can use it
with blocklimit settings of 300 and more (at your own risk).

we have been using this Seagate drive for a year now without any problems
or dataloss. Highly recommended for the Amiga PAR.



Rolf Meijer
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From: [e-mail](Joe Schrengohst )
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Subject: Re: Flairs in between transparent surfaces
Date: 28 May 1996 04:12:47 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Malcolm Lavery) writes:
>
>Hello!...
>
>I'v been haveing quite some bother with an anim that I'm producing.
>What I have, are lots of Wasps, flying around a jam jar, and one
inside.
>And there is a partical beam comming out of the top of the jar into
the sky.
>Right!, my problem is that I need to have a lense flare inside the jam
jar
>just in the lid section were the partical beam starts.
>But what ever I do, it looks really bad, I'v set the glass jar object
to cast
>no shadows, but it still looks unprofessional.
>I need a nice high intensity glow/flare inside the jar top, any ideas.

>Thanks.
>
>--
>Mal!! :)
>

Hi Mal,
I hope this is not to obvious but have you tried setting the Intensity
Falloff to adjust the effect radius of your flare. If you have a flare
and want it concentrated on a confined area rather than the whole
screen try setting your Intensity falloff to 500% or more. Intensity
Falloff only works for Point and Spot Lights. Note in the Top, Side,
and Front view you will see a circle showing the effect radius of your
flare. Once you set the Falloff to the desired level then clone your
point light with flare by 2 or 3 times for a more intense effect.
Hope this helps,
JS

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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Correct size to display video in Modeller BG image?
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Anthony Caviello wrote:

> When you display a BG image in modeller, especially for the purpose of
> creating  polygons to be Front projection mapped in layout - I was
> wondering what the correct image size should be set to, so everyting
> lines up properly when you load the image into layout's background.
>
> Assuming, I'm going to render at D2, I've been setting the size of my
> image in modeller to 1.346 meters by 1 meter, based on the aspect
> ratio for a D2 frame in layout.

Sounds good to me.  You might need to use a different size, depending on
the sizes of the other objects in the scene.  The important thing is that
the ratio of width to height in Modeler should be the same as the frame
aspect reported by Layout for the resolution and pixel shape you'll be
rendering with.

- Ernie


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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
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Subject: Re: Again more Dongle Problems
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:
>In article <4oa7d1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
> writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
>>Subject: Re: Again more Dongle Problems
>>Date: 26 May 1996 14:20:17 -0400
>
>>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>>(Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:
>
>>>Based upon the experiences posted here, I won't plug anything into the
>>>backside of a LW dongle.  For any reason. Period.  Apparently some
>>printers
>>>have the nasty trait of "reprogramming" the dongle.  I think the price of
>>an
>>>additional parallel port ($20-40) or a switchbox ($20 or so - works for
>>most
>>>but not all parallel devices) is easily worth the peace of mind.
>>>
>
>>I may be living dangerously, but I've got two dongles (LightWave and
>>Inscriber CG) connected to my printer port, and the only thing that I've
>>had a problem with is INTERSVR (DOS).  I've had this setup for about a
>>year.
>
>>-Marc
>
>Nobody has posted information about what printers have caused problems, but
>the suggestion was that some printers seem to "re-program" the dongle.  What
>amazes me about this is that no specific printers have been named and that no
>warning has been issued by NewTek.  This makes me wonder if this whole claim
>about printers killing dongles is actually true.  I intend to continue to
>excercise caution though and will pony up for the extra parallel port.
>

I've been keeping an eye on this thread for a while, cause both my machines
have dongles passing on to printers. Both machines have no IRQ's left so I
can't run an extra printer port.

Both have run for a year now with a Brother 600 Laser in the machine at
home and a Canon BJ10sx in the one at work.

Both machines very rarely get turned off. The Canon doesn't get much use and
the Brother has an auto power on/off mode.

I wonder whether it is maybe power up surges with the printer attached rather
than just a printer attached? Anyone have evidence otherwise?

Anyway, so far so good. I've got my toes crossed.

Cheers


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Kevin Gleeson
Imagine It
3D animation and graphics
Hobart
Tasmania
Australia

The Librarian Rules! - OOOK!
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From: [e-mail] (Chewie8625)
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Subject: render on one, work on another?
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Does anyone know if it is possible to put some work on one machine to
render and be able to still keep working on another machine at the same
time with one copy of LW (ie: one dongle)? I am pressed for time to get my
senior project done and am trying to think of different options. Thanks
for any advice.
-Emile Edwin Smith
-An about to graduate student in Visual Arts
-Film/Video senior
-University of California at San Diego
-Anyone need a janitor?

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: LightwavePro Book
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In article <4oe761$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stephane PEROLINI) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Stephane PEROLINI)
>Subject: LightwavePro Book
>Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 06:41:02 GMT

>Hi everybody,

>Has somebody the uportunity to speak with the people at AMG because I
>send a lot of E-Mail without answer from them... I order my book in
>november 1995.....IS IT A NORMAL WAY OF DOING THING IN THE USA:
>TAKE THE MONEY AND SEND NOTHING....to the customer.

>As John Reddington worte:
>the service stinks........

>I hope receive something from them a day....

>Stephane Perolini


Oh sure!!  You are lucky.  I routinely wait nine months for ALL my mail order
stuff.  Yep.  That's just the dumb way we do things in the good ol' USA.



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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: Diamond surface......
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In article <[e-mail]> Ernie Wright <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Diamond surface......
>Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 01:37:17 -0400

>Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:

>> I found that the outside surface had the "error" with the different
>> degrees of non-planar.  In each case, I found that if I removed the
>> outside polygon and remade it it would match the inside polygon.

>When I need double sided models, I usually build using single sides,
>and when I'm satisfied with the shape, I copy the whole thing to an
>empty layer, flip, copy back and merge points.  Actually messing with
>double-sided polygons makes me nervous for some reason.

Well you can see how often I really deal with double sided polys.  I know I
have heard this method before.  Maybe now I will remember it.  What happened
to me was that I was moving points after adding the second side and that is
when the polys flatness got goofed.


>The rounding is happening in two places.  The calculation itself is
>done with limited precision, and depending on how it's done, it might
>not be completely independent of the polygon's orientation.  The very
>small error term from the calculation can get magnified by the polygon
>info display, which only shows non-flatness to a tenth of a percent.
>0.0034999 gets printed as 0.3%, but 0.0035001 gets printed as 0.4%.

It seems to render fine by being within the 0.5% threshold so I'm not going
to sweat it.

>> Either way, the "diamond" is complete with double sides, correct
>> angles, and almost no non-planars (I decided to let anything .4% or
>> below go) and I have a simple test animation running now.  It is
>> taking 30 mins per frame at 640x480 on a P100.  Trace reflections
>> and Trace Refraction is on.  Low anti-alias with adaptive at 10.

>Whew.  Trace reflections with AA is really hammering your render time.
>For testing, I've turned trace refraction on but trace reflection and
>AA are off.  320 x 240 takes about 17 seconds on my P133.  But I bet
>your images are prettier than mine.

I am also testing at 320x240 and no anti-aliasing.  I'm doing this in my
"spare time" at home and my home P100 only has 16mb.  This machine was cobbled
together with a cheap motherboard an "extra" CPU I bought from the studio
when we upgraded a machine, and other miscellaneous parts I have collected
over the years.  I think this motherboard may have "dummy" cache ram.  I
haven't even benchmarked it to compare it to other machines.  But it feels
slow.

>BTW, I found the lower gloss settings work better, which is counter-
>intuitive, but it spreads the specularity over a larger area.  I'm not
>sure I understand what's going on there.

I'm still using the high gloss.  But I added a very dark grey Zenith and Nadir
color with black for sky and ground.  I'm using a "squeeze" for sky and ground
of about 10.  The problem with any attempt at realistic shiny stuff is that
you need an environment to reflect.  This seems to work pretty well.  I
suspect that the lower gloss setting is doing something similar to what my
Zenith and Nadir colors are doing.  It is "making up" for a lack of
environment.  Note the the other fellow mentioned that his diamond started
looking good when he put it on a white surface.

>> I added about 2 "units" of green to the inside surface and removed
>> 2 "units" of green from the outside surface to give a subtle hint
>> of color.  I may play with colored lights tomorrow or the next.

I dumped this idea.

>I tried colored lights, but it didn't do what I was hoping for--the
>rainbow edges and sparkles.  I think these'll have to be done with an
>even fakier approach.

I added three point lights and parented them low to the diamond.  Each
light is one of the primary colors but not a pure color. For instance, the red
light is r 255, g 127, b 127.  The light intensity is 10%.  I'm liking this
effect and posted diamond3.jpg on Tomahawk (tomahawk.grandi.com
/pub/LW/incoming/framestores) which is my current "most realistic".  It is
still not quite there.  I'm getting an urge to mount it in a ring.  I'm not
getting rainbows either, but I have been looking at more diamonds, and most
really don't have that much color.  It is usually pretty subtle on/in the
diamond itself.  I might try making a gradient "spectral" image and then using
the new LW light "gel projector" feature.





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From: [e-mail](Brenden Mecleary )
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Subject: Free LW?
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    Sorry if the subject threw ya, but no, this isn't an article about
piracy.  Actually, I had a question, and I was hoping someone might be
able to answer it for me.
    I go to a small private high school in southern CA, and one of the
teachers has decided that, after seeing my work with Lightwave, he
wants to get the program.  Now, he's sending Newtek a letter asking if
they could give (not sell at discount, give - as in free) the school a
few copies.  First question: is that likely?  I don't think so, but I'm
not an expert on how Newtek deals with those kinds of things, so I
can't say for sure.
    In addition, the school is exclusively Macintosh.  I've heard that
a Powermac version of LW is in the works, but we do not have a
Powermac.  In fact, we don't even have a machine with 16 MB!  So, since
any copies we might get would be useless at the school, the teacher
just figures he can hand out copies to the students for home use.  So,
that brings me to the second question: is that legal?  Since the copies
would be going to the SCHOOL, it doesn't seem right for the school to
just distribute the copies like that.
    Okay, last, what are the restrictions on educational use?  One of
them is that LW may not be used for any commercial benefit, is that not
correct?  I ask because the copies of LW that we would get would
certainly be subject to the educational restrictions, and I have no
doubt they'd be used to make the school money.  For right now, I'm
producing work with my [standard - not educational] copy of LW5.  If
the above is indeed one of the restrictions, then that would pose a big
problem.
    I realize that some of these questions might seem really obvious,
but even so, I'd really appreciate the opinions of people obviously
more knowledgeable than me about this.  Thanks in advance!

                                            Brenden Mecleary
                                            [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Stephane PEROLINI)
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Subject: LightwavePro Book
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Hi everybody,

Has somebody the uportunity to speak with the people at AMG because I
send a lot of E-Mail without answer from them... I order my book in
november 1995.....IS IT A NORMAL WAY OF DOING THING IN THE USA:
TAKE THE MONEY AND SEND NOTHING....to the customer.

As John Reddington worte:
the service stinks........

I hope receive something from them a day....

Stephane Perolini


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: render on one, work on another?
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In article <4oebf7$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chewie8625) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Chewie8625)
>Subject: render on one, work on another?
>Date: 28 May 1996 03:54:15 -0400

>Does anyone know if it is possible to put some work on one machine to
>render and be able to still keep working on another machine at the same
>time with one copy of LW (ie: one dongle)? I am pressed for time to get my
>senior project done and am trying to think of different options. Thanks
>for any advice.
>-Emile Edwin Smith
>-An about to graduate student in Visual Arts
>-Film/Video senior
>-University of California at San Diego
>-Anyone need a janitor?

Yes it is.  That is what Screamernet does for you.  It is easier if the two
machines are networked because you don't have to do anything extraordinary or
need any extra software, but the network is not strictly necessary.  There is
a program called NodeOne (or something like that) that will control a
Screamernet node on a standalone machine.  You can also simply feed the
Screamernet node a series of simple text files that will cause it to load
the scene and proced to render it.  It is a little clumsy, but it does work
and is free. You just have to invest a little time looking at the Screamernet
command docs on the CD.  As you probably figured out, the Screamernet node
does not require a dongle.




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> > $850   CSA Magnum 25MHz 68040 Accel.
> >             w/17MB 32bit RAM
> >
> >-Derek <[e-mail]>
>
> Derek,
> Are you sure that's >>> 17 <<< megabytes of ram???
>

Yes, 1MB SRAM + 16MB FastRAM = 17MB available RAM.

-Derek

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Caudill)
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Subject: more color on a2000 toaster system
Date: 28 May 1996 09:25:33 GMT
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I have an a1200 at home and do "homework" on still image files because of
the aga color.

At work we have a 2000/toatser 4000 (running in 2000 mode) and of course
only 16 colors.  That's why I do "homework."

I'd like to do less "homework."  What are my options?

I don't believe a toatser will "talk" to 3rd party boards.

--
Mark Caudill
Gefen Productions
164 S. Main Street, Suite 214
High Point, NC  27260
910-884-5020
910-884-1207 fax
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Joe Perez)
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[e-mail] (Joe Perez) wrote:

>When a render a drive-through, some of the parking guidlines flicker,
>disappearing in certain frames as the camera proceedes through the
>lot. Bringing the entire mall object into modler shows that there are
>no non-planar polys. I have field rendering and motion blur turned on,
>but didn't think this would cause a problem. Does anyone know what the
>problem could be? Thanks.

>Joe Perez

Thanks to everyone for the enormous amount of e-mail suggestions.

Joe Perez








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Subject: Re: Lightwave 6.0 ?
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Walter (Jay) Turberville (III) wrote:
> All they have to do to get my $500 is to give me animateable MetaNurbs.  OK -
> I want the motion channels separated as well for my $500.


    What about meta-motion? It seems to be just what you want as far as animatable meta-nurbs goes. (Don't woory; I'll
send you a nice sticker that says 6.0 and then you send me $500 ;-)

    Hajo

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From: [e-mail] (Richardson, Brian)
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Does anyone know where I might be able to get some
3-D models of common bathroom objects (tubs, fixtures,
lights, tile, etc) ?  I'd prefer some free/share-ware
versions if anyone knows of any.  Thanks in advance.

Brian Richardson

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[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]> Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> writes:
>>From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
>>Subject: Re: LightWave 6.0 ?(wish list...)
>>Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 11:47:10 -0400

>>William A. Mendez wrote:
>>>
>>> How about a way to create an ajustable spline path in layout for your
>>> objects to follow (ie Animation Master), This will be better than
>>> moving objects,cameras etc. and creating keyframes for them.

>>Well, actually, you can do that from Modeler. Create a spline, and save
>>that spline as a Motion path.

>>Jean-Eric

>Yes, but Animation Master allows you to adjust the spline path from within its
>scene module which is a bit handier.

With Auto Key Adjust, Auto Key Create, and the TCB spline controls you
can also adjust the curve in real time in Layout. The initial drawing
must occur in Modeler, but adjusting the curve is no problem in
Layout.

BP
PS: I have added drawing spline curves in Layout to the master wish
list.


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Koren)
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Subject: Re: I am very upset ...
Date: 28 May 1996 08:58:17 -0600
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[e-mail] (Michael Powell) wrote:

>     a pirate.... if anything, his message was less about communicating
>     to the original poster than it was a cautionary note to all who
>     might thoughtlessly post information (read, a message to *you*).

Yes, exactly.  Glad somebody understood :-)

Anyway, the original poster clairified things a bit, and came across
much more reasonably the 2nd time around, so I tried to help a bit more.
But the 1st post just sent all the wrong signals.

  - steve

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From: [e-mail] (The Glory Boys)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: I am very upset ...
Date: 28 May 1996 14:42:04 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
> This is a typical smart-ass response that I would have expected someone to
> reply to your message. I know the feeling of not being able to figure
> something out that seems to be SOOO simple. I too also use SPro on the Mac
and
> love it. Instead of helping someone out, this guy just mouths off, like he's
> never had a problem that he couldn't figure out and yet every one else knew
> how to do it.

>>Couldn't agree more. There are too many  arrogant smart-asses on this group.
>>If this guy didn't want to be civil he shouldn't reply!! Luckily there
>>are still a lot of people on this group who realize that not everyone is an
>>expert and are willing to help. Fuck the rest of them.


Amen to that brother!!

It’s ridicules and sad that lonersam  should have to spend 150 lines justifying his
right to post questions on this newsgroup. Sometimes this forum reminds me of a
junior high school cafeteria with bullies waiting to jump on the new guy. I can’t
count the number of messages I’ve read that begin "Since your new here..." As if
that’s a benevolent way of setting a pecking order.

Give me a break.

Hats off to the two people feel strongly enough about this subject to speak
out. Obviously this is not the worst example of this kind of behavior, but it seems
to be the straw that broke the camels back.

Lonersam, if you’re frustrated, be frustrated, you wouldn’t be the first. You have
nothing to be embarrassed about. If you wish to be a lunatic be a lunatic. You
entered this forum with your guard down, and as a result were made to feel
defensive and apologetic. You will learn that the simple phrased the question, the
more answers you will get, but because of your original post we learned a lot
about you. That information will help anyone who chooses to respond to you
future posts better know there audience.

Welcome to comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,

Scott at GBI


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From: Henri Smulders <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Realistic Human Movement.
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Original deleted; (Was message on How to realistically move a human). Assuming bones and IK
are setup correctly(I'm not going to get into that in a newsgroup; Read the manuals or get LWpro
and expperiment till you puke) The problem is still :HOW DO I GET GOOD MOVEMENT? Most animators are
amazed at the difficulty of geeting a good animation once they have all these cool toys. It should
be easy now right? WRONG. A Brush does not make you a Da Vinci. (One of the reasons I'm not afraid
of the growing clutter in the animation field)
    Now character animation (And especially humans) Is a whole different ballgame from
Space-ships. Without going into any particular package the problem is the same for all forms of
animation anyway. How do animals cq humans move? A solution to this problem is: act it out; better
yet; have someone else act it out. Capture the act on video-tape; analyze in premiere; look frame
by frame. Get classic-stop-motion animation and disney toons and analyze frame by frame. Look at
anticipation exaggeration etc...
    HIGHLY recommended for anyone in this field (Easier than the preceding suggestions) Try to
find Eadweard Muybridge's "Animals in motion" and "Humans in motion" (CO. 1950 's ?) Buy; borrow;
lie and steal to get these. If you are an animator you need them!

    Hajo

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From: [e-mail] (Ad Vantage Productions)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Freelance Opportunity in Newfoundland, Canada
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:20:50 LOCAL
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I'm looking for Lightwave professionals who are available for possible
freelance work in the near future. As it stands now, we are working on a large
scale animation project, with a tight deadline, which may require us to call in
an additional animator to assist in the project. This could also lead to work
on future projects.

Please contact me via e-mail.

Scott Hudson



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From: [e-mail] (Steve Koren)
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Subject: Re: I am very upset ... - Why all the FUSS? -
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Charles Meyer <[e-mail]> wrote:

> After reading your note I could not agree more.  At one time we were all
> new either to 3D or something else and someone had to help us.  If they
> were so above us when we asked then where would we be?  Also, NewTek has

Its not really a matter of "above us".  But questions can be reasonable
or unreasonable.  Reasonable shows the poster made an effort to figure
it out himself, or look it up in the docs.  For example, if you ask "The
manual tells me to do X, and I can't figure out how", or "the manual
tells me to do X, but when I try X, it doesn't work", you'll generally
get a lot of good help here no matter how basic the question.

But if you say, "I looked in the manual and I did Y and it didn't work",
when we know the manual clearly says to do X not Y, it may be an
innocent mistake, but it sends the wrong signals particularly when
coupled with with a bunch of ranting about how terrible the program is
as a result.  It has happened in the past that people who have not
legitimately bought the program use this group as a resource for
figuring it out.  It now seems the original poster is a legit owner, but
that was not at all clear from his first post.

It also doesn't hurt to trim the amount of quoted text you're replying
to :-)

  - steve

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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Newtek: Why can't I upgrade Amiga to PC LightWave?
Date: 28 May 1996 13:04:41 -0400
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The least NewTek should do is offer the same price that they offer for
competitive upgrades.

Let's see if the policy doesn't change now that this suggestion has been
posted. It's not possible for them to think these things through on their
own....


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan

"I shot a half hour, 35mm movie with professional quality visual effects
for around $5000 - and I can show you how to do it, too."
Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm

Lee's Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm

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From: [e-mail] (James Jones/Nibbles and Bits)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: metanurbs w. Metamorph
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[e-mail] said:

>Here is what I've done:
>
>1) Created a Character  head with facial features using metanurbs.

   [...]

>When I was done I had eight frozen models saved out :  Char1.lwo through
>Char8.lwo. I brought them all into layout and tried to morph from one to
>the next. Here is what I found:
>
>The first 3 models metamorphed beautifully. They had the same number of
>polys and looked just as I'd hoped. The fourth and fifth models has the
>same number of polys as the first three, but when I metamorphed to them
>they looked totally messed up--like the point order was all out of whack.
>SIx through eight had a different number of polys from one through five
>and therefore were useless as morph targets.

   [...]

>ANy help appreciated! Thanks!


   Not that it will help any, but I did much the same thing after I
received 5.0 and didn't have any problems morphing between the
various (in my case, 3) objects. Maybe there's a certain level of
distortion of the Metanurb cage that, when exceeded, changes the
frozen point order? But why your latter objects should have a
different number of polys, I have no idea -- I assumed that the
Patch level remained consistant when freezing... ?
   About the only thing I can suggest is to do some more "nurbing"
to narrow down what causes the problem. Or perhaps, as you say, undo
is the culprit... you could try saving the Metanurb cage to disk as
a substitute for undo.

   -Jim

James G. Jones
Nibbles & Bits
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From: [e-mail] (guy pensart)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: book for LightWave
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:33:18 GMT
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[e-mail] (Carlos Rego) wrote:

>On 26-Apr-96 03:27:44, Antony Wong Said This About book for LightWave
>>Hi, anybody

>>I am looking a book for LightWave, does anybody know have a book
>> for this LightWave ?
>>if yes, please tell me what is the book name or other information,

>>Thanks a lot !!!

>>Antony Wong
>>[e-mail]
>Yes, get "Exploring Lightwave 3D" from New Era Press... it's a great book,
>they can be reached at "23120 W Lyons Ave #143, Santa Clarita, CA 91321",
>sorry i don't know the phone number, i have the book it costs around 60$ USD
>and it's great




><tsb>
>Amiga 4000 / 2.5 GB HD / 16+2 MB Ram / PAR + 1.25 GB / 17" DIGITAL / 1080 /
>Cybervision 64 4MB / 2X CD-Rom / Toaster 4.1 / LightWave 4.0 / Imagine 4.0 ..
>Shapeshifter 3.4 / System 7.5.1 / 500 MB HD / 14 Mb Ram

>Carlos Rego . Computer Artist . E-Mail: [e-mail] . #Undernet:Carlos_R .
>HTTP://www.ici.net/cust_pages/carlos/carlos.html

>        Amiga Rulez (But I trade mine for an ONYX anytime)
><sb>




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From: [e-mail] (MicroTech)
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Subject: Re: PAR Hard Drives
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On 26-May-96 14:59:23, Dimitri Boschma ([e-mail]) posted:

> In a message of 24 May 96 Microtech wrote to All:


>  >>> Hi All!

> >>> I am in the process of purchasing a PAR for my Amiga, so I'll be in
> >>> the market for a hard drive.  Is the Quantum Fireball one of the
> >>> better drives for this system, or are there better, newer hard
> >>> drives?


>  >>>                                        -Dave
>  >>>                                         [e-mail]


> M> Quantum makes both SCSI and IDE versions of the Fireball. And the IDE
> M> Fireball works wonderfully with the PAR - *very* fast transfer rates,
> M> allowing a higher Q-Factor setting.

> There is a litle problem using the quantum fireball with the amiga PAR.
> It won't work, the Fireball is not supported on the Amiga version.  We

Sorry, but we've installed quite a few Fireballs on Amiga PAR systems, and
they have all worked flawlessly. Perhaps you're behind as far as the PAR
software revision goes. Newer versions support new drives that the older
versions do not.

> use version 2.5 of the PAR software and we can't use our Fireball's with

If I'm not mistaken, the PAR software is up to V2.52 now. I can't speak for
older versions, but 2.52 works perfectly with Fireballs.

Regards,
John Crookshank
MicroTech

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Subject: Re: Flyer composite out!?!
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On 24-May-96 15:08:21, Lance Gray ([e-mail]) posted:

> In using my Flyer or toaster for that matter....I've always used the YC+
> for the YC(S-vhs) out.  However, I've just recently plugged in a cable
> to go composite out of the Flyer and all I get is a scrambled mess on
> the screen!  I know another Flyer owner who kept telling me his system
> did this....I didn't think much about it since I've always used the YC+
> but it's obvious my system does the same!

> Any solutions to this problem!  Obviously I can still use my system just
> fine with YC, but I'd like to make additional copies of clips to other
> VCR's using the composite out.

> Please help!  Thanks!

The Y/C+ card 'steals' your composite output, so it is no longer available.
I guess you could take the composite output of your SVHS VCR and use that
to feed other composite decks downstream.

Regards,
John Crookshank
MicroTech

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Again more Dongle Problems
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In article <4odufg$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
>Subject: Re: Again more Dongle Problems
>Date: Tue, 28 May 96 21:13:02 GMT


>>
>>Nobody has posted information about what printers have caused problems, but
>>the suggestion was that some printers seem to "re-program" the dongle.  What
>>amazes me about this is that no specific printers have been named and that no
>>warning has been issued by NewTek.  This makes me wonder if this whole claim
>>about printers killing dongles is actually true.  I intend to continue to
>>excercise caution though and will pony up for the extra parallel port.
>>

>I've been keeping an eye on this thread for a while, cause both my machines
>have dongles passing on to printers. Both machines have no IRQ's left so I
>can't run an extra printer port.

>Both have run for a year now with a Brother 600 Laser in the machine at
>home and a Canon BJ10sx in the one at work.

>Both machines very rarely get turned off. The Canon doesn't get much use and
>the Brother has an auto power on/off mode.

>I wonder whether it is maybe power up surges with the printer attached rather
>than just a printer attached? Anyone have evidence otherwise?

>Anyway, so far so good. I've got my toes crossed.

>Cheers


>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>Kevin Gleeson


I think it could be just about anything.  It could have just been a "bad
batch" of dongles.  I am just going by the causes that people say NewTek has
attributed to the trouble.  I'm less than convinced, but I'd rather err on the
side of caution.


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From: [e-mail] (Malcolm Lavery)
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Subject: Re: Flairs in between transparent surfaces
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On 28-May-96 04:38:36, the dood Adam Ives Chrystie said about Re: Flairs in
between transparent surfaces:

Hi!, Adam..

> Hmm..map an image of a flare onto a polygona nd put it in the jar???

This was one option that I tryed, works in other situations, but not in this
case, thanks all the same.

Cya!...

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From: [e-mail] (Malcolm Lavery)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Flairs in between transparent surfaces
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On 28-May-96 04:12:47, the dood Joe Schrengohst  said about Re: Flairs in
between transparent surfaces:

Hi!, Joe.

>>
>>I'v been haveing quite some bother with an anim that I'm producing.
>>What I have, are lots of Wasps, flying around a jam jar, and one
> inside.
>>And there is a partical beam comming out of the top of the jar into
> the sky.
>>Right!, my problem is that I need to have a lense flare inside the jam
> jar
>>just in the lid section were the partical beam starts.
>>But what ever I do, it looks really bad, I'v set the glass jar object
> to cast
>>no shadows, but it still looks unprofessional.
>>I need a nice high intensity glow/flare inside the jar top, any ideas.

>>Thanks.
>>
>>--
>>Mal!! :)
>>

> Hi Mal,
> I hope this is not to obvious but have you tried setting the Intensity
> Falloff to adjust the effect radius of your flare. If you have a flare
> and want it concentrated on a confined area rather than the whole
> screen try setting your Intensity falloff to 500% or more. Intensity
> Falloff only works for Point and Spot Lights. Note in the Top, Side,
> and Front view you will see a circle showing the effect radius of your
> flare. Once you set the Falloff to the desired level then clone your
> point light with flare by 2 or 3 times for a more intense effect.
> Hope this helps,

This would mean that I would have to have the falloff inside the jar edges,
will it not?, to stop the flare/glow cutting through the sides of the jar.

I'll try it, thanks.

Cya!...

--
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Stever)
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Subject: Re: FS: 68040 Accel. w/17MB
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In article <4o7d1e$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail](Bob Bennett) wrote:

> In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (singh)
> writes:
> >
> >In article <4o244h$[e-mail]>,
> >[e-mail](Bob Bennett) wrote:
> >
> >> In <01bb4820.d4fca0e0$185ec08c@shiba> J. Derek Davis
> >> <[e-mail]> writes:
> >> >
> >> >Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > $850   CSA Magnum 25MHz 68040 Accel.
> >> >             w/17MB 32bit RAM
> >> >
> >> >-Derek <[e-mail]>
> >>
> >> Derek,
> >> Are you sure that's >>> 17 <<< megabytes of ram???

--



I have a Magnum 040 @ 40Mhz with 17MB of memory. 16 MB of 32bit DRAM and
1MB of 32bit StaticRAM (35NS), you can remap ROMs into this space or run
programs in this space (very fast). So he is correct about the 17MB of
memory if he has the static RAM option. Can we lay this to rest now?



    These opinions do not reflect those of any being, living or dead.
                 If this program is so damned important........
                        How did we get it?????????.
__________________________________________________________________________
          System- A2000/40Mhz Magnum040/16MB/Retina ZII/Emplant


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
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Subject: Re: Free LW?
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[snip]
>    I realize that some of these questions might seem really obvious,
>but even so, I'd really appreciate the opinions of people obviously
>more knowledgeable than me about this.  Thanks in advance!

>                                            Brenden Mecleary
>                                            [e-mail]

I think you could teach your "teacher" some things about software licensing.
I think your assumptions are generally correct.  However, since the LW license
agreement that came with all of our packages doesn't really properly address
the issues of allowed usage, it is tough to say.  The general rule of one
licensed for one user at a time generally holds though.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (QbertQ)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Good Hardware Configuration for Lightwave 5.0?
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I m just getting into 3D animation. I m buying a new computer to handle
(mostly) 3D work. Can anyone recommend a good video card that will work
well with Lightwave 5.0 (Windows  95) and the other graphic  software(like
Photoshop).

Do you think the following system will be enough to handle programs like
Lightwave 5.0 and Photoshop?


Diamond Stealth 64 2 Meg VRAM PCI card.
(I ve heard that Matrox Millennium is the best for graphics but the card
has compatiblility problems with various programs).
32 megs of ram
Pentium 133
2.1 Gig Hard SCSI Drive
4X CD Rom


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From: [e-mail] (SYoakum)
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Subject: Danimation Homepage
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Check out the new home page by  Daniel  L. Smith a Senior Animator at Will
Vinton Studios.

He has some of the best graphics I have seen on the web!!


http://members.aol.com/felriq/spamo.htm

He has everything from The new M&M commercials to his work on Judge
Dredd!!!

A must for 3DAnimators

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From: adam <[e-mail]>
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Just bought LW5.0, Newtek is always busy when I ring..

Installed on a win95 system with 64 mb ram, CD loaded. Rebooted, then when
launching lw modeller it gives me:

Startup failure 213: Message file missing

Help!! Dongle is well and truly in the back of the machine!!

Shit for £1,000 why do I get so much trouble?

Mail me at [e-mail] or post reply, I'm getting angry

Adam

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
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In article <4of2tj$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brad Peebler) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Brad Peebler)
>Subject: Re: LightWave 6.0 ?(wish list...)
>Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:44:20 GMT

>[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:

>>In article <[e-mail]> Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> writes:
>>>From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
>>>Subject: Re: LightWave 6.0 ?(wish list...)
>>>Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 11:47:10 -0400

>>>William A. Mendez wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How about a way to create an ajustable spline path in layout for your
>>>> objects to follow (ie Animation Master), This will be better than
>>>> moving objects,cameras etc. and creating keyframes for them.

>>>Well, actually, you can do that from Modeler. Create a spline, and save
>>>that spline as a Motion path.

>>>Jean-Eric

>>Yes, but Animation Master allows you to adjust the spline path from within its
>>scene module which is a bit handier.

>With Auto Key Adjust, Auto Key Create, and the TCB spline controls you
>can also adjust the curve in real time in Layout. The initial drawing
>must occur in Modeler, but adjusting the curve is no problem in
>Layout.

>BP
>PS: I have added drawing spline curves in Layout to the master wish
>list.

I haven't tried either of the Auto Key features yet.  I'll have to take a look
this week.

Thanks.


Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]
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In article <[e-mail]>, david goerndt <[e-mail]> wrote:

> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > To anyone at Newtek:
> >
> > Why can't I upgrade from Amiga LW 4.0 to PC LW 5.0?
> > This really makes no sense. I can understand paying
> > $500 as opposed to $300 for an upgrade, but I am
> > not allowed to do this!
> >
> > Please respond to:
> > [e-mail]
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://www.seanet.com/~mortlieb/
> >
> > I would like to clear this up as soon as possible!
>
>
> I called Newtek about this because I was wondering about switching to PC
> LW 5. I was told I would have to pay full price for PC LW. I believe
> their reasoning is that it is a different program with a different
> dongle, so cross-upgrading isn't possible.

If they're worried about the dongle, though, I'd just mail everything
back to them and pay the extra $200 for the upgrade.

[e-mail]
http://www.seanet.com/~mortlieb/

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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: LW5.0 for SGI status?
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+-- Gregg Lukomski <[e-mail]> writes:
|   Anyone under software support have any info on the
| status of LW5.0 for IRIX?  Newtek, Xaos and everyone
| else have very little info and haven't updated their
| web pages since pre-NAB...

It's probably at least a few weeks away yet.  We've been having
some trouble with their new licensing scheme.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"


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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Wacom tablets and Lightwave
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+-- [e-mail] (DIWT) writes:
|  My wacom tablet acts erratic in layout still, sometimes when moving an
| object up along the Y-axis, it'll get stuck in that mode. All I've been
| able to do is restart layout.
|  Anyone else have this happen?

Did you set the mode to "tablet" in the options panel?
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: metanurbs w. Metamorph
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+-- [e-mail] (Howard ST) writes:
| I have been trying to create a sequence of metamorph targets using
| metanurbs.
| I am getting somewhat inconsistent results and I'm curious if anybody has
| any
| advice:
|
| Here is what I've done:
|
| 1) Created a Character  head with facial features using metanurbs.
| 2) Froze to polys.
| 3) Saved as Char1.lwo
| 4) hit undo to remove frozen polys and go back to metanurbs.
| 5) Tweaked face into a smile using metanurbs
| 6) Froze to polys.
| 7) Saved out as char2.lwo
| 8) Hit undo to go back to metanurbs
| 9) Tweaked to next facial expression, froze, save (char3.lwo) undo, etc.
    [...]
| The first 3 models metamorphed beautifully. They had the same number of
| polys and looked just as I'd hoped. The fourth and fifth models has the
| same number of polys as the first three, but when I metamorphed to them
| they looked totally messed up--like the point order was all out of whack.
| SIx through eight had a different number of polys from one through five
| and therefore were useless as morph targets.

This is something we explicitly tested for in the beta phase, and
it did work in our tests.  Freeze/save/undo, modify/freeze/save/undo, etc.
as a method should give you consistent models, with a few caveats.  Make
sure that new polygons are set to "Triangles" or "Quadrangles" and not
"Automatic".  Automatic will cause a different number of polygons to be
created based on geometry.  Any operation not from the "Modify" panel
may mess up your point order, even if you undo it.  If you make a
mistake, reload your base cage from a file.  This should restore the
point and polygon order.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: Farrell McGovern <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Looking for a copy of LW 4
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Greetings:

    I want to learn LW3D, but cannot afford a copy of the newest
version. If anyone has an old copy of ver 4 that they would like to get
rid of, I would be interested in buying it.

ttyl
     Farrell McGovern

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From: Ottmar Roehrig <[e-mail]>
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Apperently when LW5.0 is installed in a system with the german (or
non-US) version of Win95 starting up Modeler yields in an error-message
(#218). I heard that there is a patch avialable which correct this
problem.

Can someone enlighten us where to find this information? Reply by email
would be preferred.

Thanks in advance,

--
Ottmar Roehrig
dcp, design+commercial partner GmbH  | Internet: [e-mail]
    <http://www.dcp.DE>          | CIS: 102404,3703

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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
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Subject: Re: Looking for a copy of LW 4
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Farrell McGovern <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Greetings:
>
>    I want to learn LW3D, but cannot afford a copy of the newest
>version. If anyone has an old copy of ver 4 that they would like to get
>rid of, I would be interested in buying it.
>
>ttyl
>     Farrell McGovern

Give me a call at work, 301-942-6800. We've got two copies of LW 4.0
for Intel left.

Dave Paige
Alfheim Imaging
[e-mail]

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Jeff Jasper wrote:
>
> .... Is this currently suppored or does
> > anyone know a way to use 3d painting programs in conjunction with
> > lightwave? (Amazon Paint would be another contender). If its not currently
> > possible, I think it would be  a good feature to add to the wish list.
>
> There is a program called Meshpaint which will let you paint directly onto
> you Lightwave wireframes. It does a pretty good job, and you can then
> touch it up in Photoshop before applying it as a texture to your model.
>

Amazon 3D paint can read UVs off a model file (Wavefront OBJ for example)
or you can recreate the standard lightwave projections inside our UV editor.
(we actually had help from the NewTek guys on this one)

for more info:
http://www.ifx.com/ie

Does Powertexture allow you to bring UV coordinates from outside
sources or export models from Lightwave that contain the actual
texture vertices ?   What format is this new data?

_____________________________________________________________________
Tom Benoist                                        Email: [e-mail]
Interactive Effects                      Amazon http://www.ifx.com/ie
Tom's Strange SGI Software web site     http://www.ifx.com/ie/benoist

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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Diamond surface......
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+-- Ernie Wright <[e-mail]> writes:
| Jay Turberville wrote:
| > Can anyone explain how two five point polygons that share the same
| > points can have different percentages of flatness.
|
| Stuart should probably answer this, since it depends on the method used
| to calculate non-flatness, but it probably has to do with points being
| considered in different orders on the two sides.  Ideally you'd like
| your planarity metric to be independent of things like point order.

The point order is extremely important, since LightWave calculates
normals based on the first, second and last polygon vertices.  The
flatness metric in Modeler takes the plane defined by these three
points and determines the maximum deviation of any vertex from this
plane.  This distance is then converted to a percentage.

I have discovered that the math for converting to a percentage is
somewhat dependent on polygon orientation.  This is something I'll fix
next time around.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
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In article <4of3bs$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (The Glory Boys) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (The Glory Boys)
>Subject: Re: I am very upset ...
>Date: 28 May 1996 14:42:04 GMT

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>says...
>> This is a typical smart-ass response that I would have expected someone to
>> reply to your message. I know the feeling of not being able to figure
>> something out that seems to be SOOO simple. I too also use SPro on the Mac
>and
>> love it. Instead of helping someone out, this guy just mouths off, like he's
>> never had a problem that he couldn't figure out and yet every one else knew
>> how to do it.

>>>Couldn't agree more. There are too many  arrogant smart-asses on this group.
>>>If this guy didn't want to be civil he shouldn't reply!! Luckily there
>>>are still a lot of people on this group who realize that not everyone is an
>>>expert and are willing to help. Fuck the rest of them.


>Amen to that brother!!

>It’s ridicules and sad that lonersam  should have to spend 150 lines justifying his
>right to post questions on this newsgroup. Sometimes this forum reminds me of a
>junior high school cafeteria with bullies waiting to jump on the new guy. I can’t
>count the number of messages I’ve read that begin "Since your new here..." As if
>that’s a benevolent way of setting a pecking order.

Give it a try.  I don't recall much of this at all.

>Give me a break.

>Hats off to the two people feel strongly enough about this subject to speak
>out. Obviously this is not the worst example of this kind of behavior, but it seems
>to be the straw that broke the camels back.

>Lonersam, if you’re frustrated, be frustrated, you wouldn’t be the first. You have
>nothing to be embarrassed about. If you wish to be a lunatic be a lunatic. You
>entered this forum with your guard down, and as a result were made to feel
>defensive and apologetic. You will learn that the simple phrased the question, the
>more answers you will get, but because of your original post we learned a lot
>about you. That information will help anyone who chooses to respond to you
>future posts better know there audience.

>Welcome to comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,

>Scott at GBI

People who post their problems/issues here in a clear manner and also show
that they have gone through some effort to resolve the problem themselves,
almost always get a decent response.  The big exception is those posts that
ask the same question that has been answered a hundred times.  Like how come
AVIs aren't working properly in Win95 on LW 4.0.

It would be nice if the LW faq were posted here once every two weeks or so.
This would help with the repeat questions.

This is not a slam on anyone's grammar, but when I have to struggle to
understand a question and the post seems to be coming from an English
speaking country, I skip it.  I suspect others do the same.  Coherency helps.
And besides, remember that nobody is obligated to help anybody here.  It is a
voluntary cooperative effort.  Part of that cooperation needs to come from
the person requesting assistance.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
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In article <[e-mail]> Henri Smulders <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Henri Smulders <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Lightwave 6.0 ?
>Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:34:23 -0400

>Walter (Jay) Turberville (III) wrote:
>> All they have to do to get my $500 is to give me animateable MetaNurbs.  OK -
>> I want the motion channels separated as well for my $500.


>        What about meta-motion? It seems to be just what you want as far as animatable meta-nurbs goes. (Don't woory; I'll
>send you a nice sticker that says 6.0 and then you send me $500 ;-)

>        Hajo

I haven't had a chance to check it out yet.  But what I am looking for is the
ability to take the MetaNurb cage and manipulate it interactively (and
keyframe the manipulations) in Layout.  I don't think meta-Motion does that,
but if it does then I will send you a heartfelt thank-you for bringing it to
my attention.

Maybe I should stop playing with diamonds?  :^)


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Anyone looking to sell this.  On CD preferably.

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anyone looking to sell this program for the PC?  preferably on CD

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>>>Couldn't agree more. There are too many  arrogant smart-asses on this group.
>>>If this guy didn't want to be civil he shouldn't reply!! Luckily there
>>>are still a lot of people on this group who realize that not everyone is an
>>>expert and are willing to help. Fuck the rest of them.


>Amen to that brother!!

>It’s ridicules and sad that lonersam  should have to spend 150 lines justifying his
>right to post questions on this newsgroup. Sometimes this forum reminds me of a
>junior high school cafeteria with bullies waiting to jump on the new guy. I can’t
>count the number of messages I’ve read that begin "Since your new here..." As if
>that’s a benevolent way of setting a pecking order.

>Give me a break.

>Hats off to the two people feel strongly enough about this subject to speak
>out. Obviously this is not the worst example of this kind of behavior, but it seems
>to be the straw that broke the camels back.

>Lonersam, if you’re frustrated, be frustrated, you wouldn’t be the first. You have
>nothing to be embarrassed about. If you wish to be a lunatic be a lunatic. You
>entered this forum with your guard down, and as a result were made to feel
>defensive and apologetic. You will learn that the simple phrased the question, the
>more answers you will get, but because of your original post we learned a lot
>about you. That information will help anyone who chooses to respond to you
>future posts better know there audience.

>Welcome to comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,

>Scott at GBI

My internet provider keeps around 21 days worth of the list on the server.
From May 8 to now, I was able to find only this ONE post from you Scott.

Personally, I'm frustrated with people looking for a free ride who do not
contribute to making this group a good resource.  Maybe there was nothing that
you could do to assist anyone over the past three weeks except your one post.
I have no way of knowing.  I do know that a quick review of the list shows a
number of thank-you notes from people who were very appreciative of all the
help they received.  This newsgroup is NOT particularly elitest.

I think your perspective is skewed.

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Hi Folks,

Is there a way to create a 32-bit Uncompressed AVI file that has 8 bits
of Alpha channel in it? Seems like I can create a 24-bit RGB
Uncompressed AVI and then an 8-bit Alpha AVI, but is there a way to
create all this info in one 32-bit RGBA AVI???

I'd like to be able to create one large AVI file with all the RGB and
Alpha data in it... is this possible? The documentation is vague about
such export formats and I couldn't get it to work by just "pushing
buttons."

(rest assured I paid for my copy of LightWave and own a dongle *and*
manuals which I've read but havn't been able to find answers to my
questions in this case).

Thanks,

Nate hayes
Sunfish Studio

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Hi Folks,

Is there a way to create a 32-bit Uncompressed AVI file that has 8 bits
of Alpha channel in it? Seems like I can create a 24-bit RGB
Uncompressed AVI and then an 8-bit Alpha AVI, but is there a way to
create all this info in one 32-bit RGBA AVI???

I'd like to be able to create one large AVI file with all the RGB and
Alpha data in it... is this possible? The documentation is vague about
such export formats and I couldn't get it to work by just "pushing
buttons."

(rest assured I paid for my copy of LightWave and own a dongle *and*
manuals which I've read but havn't been able to find answers to my
questions in this case).

Thanks,

Nate hayes
Sunfish Studio

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
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In article <4of3bs$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (The Glory Boys) writes:

>>>Couldn't agree more. There are too many  arrogant smart-asses on this group.
>>>If this guy didn't want to be civil he shouldn't reply!! Luckily there
>>>are still a lot of people on this group who realize that not everyone is an
>>>expert and are willing to help. Fuck the rest of them.


>Amen to that brother!!

>It’s ridicules and sad that lonersam  should have to spend 150 lines justifying his
>right to post questions on this newsgroup. Sometimes this forum reminds me of a
>junior high school cafeteria with bullies waiting to jump on the new guy. I can’t
>count the number of messages I’ve read that begin "Since your new here..." As if
>that’s a benevolent way of setting a pecking order.

>Give me a break.

>Hats off to the two people feel strongly enough about this subject to speak
>out. Obviously this is not the worst example of this kind of behavior, but it seems
>to be the straw that broke the camels back.

>Lonersam, if you’re frustrated, be frustrated, you wouldn’t be the first. You have
>nothing to be embarrassed about. If you wish to be a lunatic be a lunatic. You
>entered this forum with your guard down, and as a result were made to feel
>defensive and apologetic. You will learn that the simple phrased the question, the
>more answers you will get, but because of your original post we learned a lot
>about you. That information will help anyone who chooses to respond to you
>future posts better know there audience.

>Welcome to comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,

>Scott at GBI

BTW - If you haven't figured it out, your general slam on this group really
irritates me.  I did a review of the posts I have made in the past three
weeks.  I made 34 posts that were responses to questions posted by others.  I
made 1 post that was a direct request for information for myself.  I made 16
posts that were general discussion/commentary (most of which were on-topic).
I put a fair amount of time and effort into this group and attitudes like
yours are causing me to seriously reconsider the value of my participation.
Too many people want too much and are putting way too little effort into
getting it and are putting far too little back in return.  I'm tiring of it.

There are a lot of folks here whose time is VERY valuable who sometimes go to
great length to give detailed and valuable information.  And they respond to
the same questions repeatedly.  I get the distinct feeling that a lot of
people take this for granted.

Welcome to comp.graphics.apps.lightwave . . . now go home!

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
>Subject: Re: Diamond surface......
>Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 19:59:43 GMT

>+-- Ernie Wright <[e-mail]> writes:
>| Jay Turberville wrote:
>| > Can anyone explain how two five point polygons that share the same
>| > points can have different percentages of flatness.
>|
>| Stuart should probably answer this, since it depends on the method used
>| to calculate non-flatness, but it probably has to do with points being
>| considered in different orders on the two sides.  Ideally you'd like
>| your planarity metric to be independent of things like point order.

>The point order is extremely important, since LightWave calculates
>normals based on the first, second and last polygon vertices.  The
>flatness metric in Modeler takes the plane defined by these three
>points and determines the maximum deviation of any vertex from this
>plane.  This distance is then converted to a percentage.

>I have discovered that the math for converting to a percentage is
>somewhat dependent on polygon orientation.  This is something I'll fix
>next time around.
>--
>        Stuart Ferguson         ([e-mail])
>                "How do you compute that?  Where on the
>                 graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

As always, thanks.  This sounds like a reasonable approach for a "make planar"
script.  Of course there is the problem of what you do to adjacent polygons
when you make the one poly planar . . . hmmm.





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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Walter
(Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:
>

>
>I haven't had a chance to check it out yet.  But what I am looking for
is the
>ability to take the MetaNurb cage and manipulate it interactively (and

>keyframe the manipulations) in Layout.  I don't think meta-Motion does
that,
>but if it does then I will send you a heartfelt thank-you for bringing
it to
>my attention.

Metamation does exactly that... instead of Freezing your nurbs, use
your cage objects in Layout as morph targets, and animate as normal.
When you're done setting it up, simply activate Metamation and you'll
have a nice metaformed version of your cage object...

AC


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FOR SALE:    LIGHTWAVE 3D 4.0 $495

        Intel Version on CD-ROM

For Windows NT and Windows 95
Includes all manuals and software key.

Will provide letter to transfer ownership.

Buyer pays shipping and COD.

Joe

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> They were not meant to bo original in any way. They were meant to present
> examples of raytraced images. Kept simple deliberatly.

So then what is the point? When people say they can produce rendered work
indistinguishable from raytraced, without raytracing, surely they mean "as
photo-realistic, if not more so" than raytracing? If so, why would they bother
trying to make their images look like they have been poorly ray-traced (no
offense - I havn't seen your images :). A poorly done ray-traced image _looks_
raytraced, and that is something to avoid like the plague, no matter what your
software is, so how can this reflect on how good each package is? (Wasn't that
the point of the exercise?)
(As I said, I havn't seen the stuff, but reading a description of it, and your
comment above, sorta makes me wonder :)


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From: [e-mail] (Howard ST)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: metanurbs w. Metamorph
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Stuart and others,

Thanks for the responses... when you say

>>Freeze/save/undo, modify/freeze/save/undo, etc.
as a method should give you consistent models,>>

by "consistent models" do you mean consistent in their number of polys and
point orders? As I indicated in my post, this was not my experience, but
then I couldn't swear I didn't do something funky and then undo
it...perhaps my problem was there.... I could definitely have touched
something outside of the modify menu (for example I probably used Set Val,
I use that a fair amount I find).

Meanwhile another poster got me off using Metaform for my animation, which
seems to be superior to my approach since it doesn't involve dealing with
so many high poly count models. I started using metanurbs as essentially a
preview for metaform plus, but then metaforming the low poly count object
rather than freezing the nurbs version,  and then bringing my "reference
models" all into layout and  metamorphing between them. Worked
perfectly...

...to my eye, taking a low poly count object and metaform plusing it
created pretty much the same geometry as freezing the metanurbs from the
same model. I didn't have time to check if it nce I got it working I was
off and running)...but can anyone shed any light on this issue? Are the
two processes exactly the same or are there some differences in the
outcome? If so, what?

Anyway, I'm a happy guy, I have at least one and maybe two ways to do what
I wanted to do.

Thanks

-H
-H

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From: [e-mail] (CamCollect)
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Subject: Animator Wanted
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Progressive post-production house is seeking an Animator/Art Director.
The candidate must be a highly motivated, creative leader.  Technical
requirements include a proven background in the hands-on operation of 3-D
animation software including SoftImage and LightWave.  Knowledge of the
video post-production process required.  Editing skills a plus.

The candidate should posses strong interpersonal communitcation skills
with the ability to work with clients on a one-on-one, daily basis in a
professional atmosphere.  Technical abilities are important but creative
talents and motivations are most essential.  Send resume and demo tape to
Digital FX, Inc. 9146 Jefferson Hwy., Baton Rouge, LA 70809.





   Greg Milneck, Jr.

       Digital FX, Inc.

           Baton Rouge, LA, USA


                    [e-mail]

                    [e-mail]

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I know this sounds low budget, but I tried filming some avi's with my
hi-8 camera directly from my monitor. They look ok (good enough to show
to friends, ect.) but there's an annoying flicker which shows up on
video that I was unable to eliminate with the shutter speed settings on
my camera. Has anyone had any sucess with this technique and is there
any way to get rid of the flicker?

Thanks much,
Justin K.


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From: Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: What's an A4000/Toaster/Amilink system worth?
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I have an A4000 with the following extras, all in excellent shape:

18 MB RAM
120 MB HD
Commodore 1942 monitor
Toaster 4000/Switcher 3.1/Lightwave 3.5
Amilink v2.795 (T4000 compatible)
V-LAN A/B roll edit system with four external V-LAN boxes
Pixel Pro 2.0
Commodore Ethernet card
Enlan DFS network software

Among other things, this is a complete Amilink A/B roll edit system. Just add
VCR's and monitors. What's it worth?

OTHER STUFF:

Panasonic AG-7750 SVHS VCR (editor) with optional time code board, 5 yrs old.

Panasonic AG-7650 SVHS VCR (source) with optional time code board, 5 yrs old.

Videotek dual output signal generator: TV station-quality device. One output is
switchable between four signals including SMPTE bars. The other output is
continuous black but has become intermittent. Regardless, this has not affected
the first output which is rock-steady. Also includes continuous 1-KHz tone
generator. I'd say it's still worth over $100. How about you?

Videotek 1x6 distribution amplifier: Another seriously engineered device,
with never a hint of trouble. Loopable input with detachable terminator, and six
identical outputs. Two trimmer pots on the front for gain and EQ adjustments. What
do you say?

Reasonable offers welcome. No dealers/brokers/sharks with absurdly low package
offers, please.

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Mike Jew ([e-mail]) wrote:
: where can i find free meshes besides meshmart etc?

the viewpoint avalon site?

- Mok-Yi Chow
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From: Mike Y Chen <[e-mail]>
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I am interested in purchasing a PowerMac Laptop, but I don't know
which one to buy and what specs I'll need to do the job I want.
So please help me out if you know.
I am going to use the PowerMac Laptop to do the following:
 1. Photoshop
 2. Play QuickTime video (resolution 800X600, 30 fps, 60-70mb files)
 3. use it as a 2nd monitor for my PowerMac Desktop (to display palettes
       & brushes so my primary monitor doesn't get all crowded.)

I assume I would need active matrix & LCD for good quality display.
But I don't know which model to get, and the processor speed and amount
of memory I need to perform the above jobs.

Please reply by email.  Thanx.
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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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you must set the keyboard mapping to english usa to make lw 5.0 work


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Tack)
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Subject: Re: Poser or Humanoid?
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>go ahead and order the Humanoid anyway because of the ONE MAIN feature that
>Poser does not have, and that's the fact that you can have the humanoid right
>in your Layout while you work with it and move it around and stuff. And also
>it has way more detail than the other. But if all you want is a pretty good
>basic human shape, then ok, get Poser. But when I found out that for only a
>hundred bucks more you can get the real thing, well I got the Humanoid.
>Besides it also comes with bones and a walk and run motion....md

Well, after several e-mail responses, I've decided against Poser.  I'm sure
it's a cool program and all, but the Lightwave-specific stuff of Humanoid
sounds like a huge advantage.  It sounds like version 2.0 is worth waiting for
- their web page said that they're building "proper support" for LW 5.0 into
it.  Sounds cool!  Maybe the bones will already be set up with joint
compensation and muscle flexing settings?

Someone also mentioned Hash Animator, but I haven't looked into that yet.

BTW, do any of these programs provide *clothing*?  I assume not - the samples
I've seen from both programs always show either naked bodies or textures
mapped directly onto the bodies for that wonderfully realistic skin-tight
super-hero costume look.  And what about hair?  Or is that the domain of
Alias/Wavefront and the like?

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In article <4oggcm$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Tack) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Steve Tack)
>Subject: Re: Poser or Humanoid?
>Date: 29 May 1996 03:30:30 GMT

>>go ahead and order the Humanoid anyway because of the ONE MAIN feature that
>>Poser does not have, and that's the fact that you can have the humanoid right
>>in your Layout while you work with it and move it around and stuff. And also
>>it has way more detail than the other. But if all you want is a pretty good
>>basic human shape, then ok, get Poser. But when I found out that for only a
>>hundred bucks more you can get the real thing, well I got the Humanoid.
>>Besides it also comes with bones and a walk and run motion....md

>Well, after several e-mail responses, I've decided against Poser.  I'm sure
>it's a cool program and all, but the Lightwave-specific stuff of Humanoid
>sounds like a huge advantage.  It sounds like version 2.0 is worth waiting for
>- their web page said that they're building "proper support" for LW 5.0 into
>it.  Sounds cool!  Maybe the bones will already be set up with joint
>compensation and muscle flexing settings?

>Someone also mentioned Hash Animator, but I haven't looked into that yet.

>BTW, do any of these programs provide *clothing*?  I assume not - the samples
>I've seen from both programs always show either naked bodies or textures
>mapped directly onto the bodies for that wonderfully realistic skin-tight
>super-hero costume look.  And what about hair?  Or is that the domain of
>Alias/Wavefront and the like?

>Steve Tack

No cloths or hair for humanoid.  One advantage not mentioned is that all the
humanoid objects have the correct point order and count for morphing from one
humanoid to another.  ie. from a "child" to a "woman" to a "strong man".  At
least I recall this as being the case.




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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
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[e-mail] (QbertQ) wrote:

>I m just getting into 3D animation. I m buying a new computer to handle
>(mostly) 3D work. Can anyone recommend a good video card that will work
>well with Lightwave 5.0 (Windows  95) and the other graphic  software(like
>Photoshop).
>
>Do you think the following system will be enough to handle programs like
>Lightwave 5.0 and Photoshop?
>
>
>Diamond Stealth 64 2 Meg VRAM PCI card.
>(I ve heard that Matrox Millennium is the best for graphics but the card
>has compatiblility problems with various programs).
>32 megs of ram
>Pentium 133
>2.1 Gig Hard SCSI Drive
>4X CD Rom
>

I would recommend a Stealth with 4meg of VRAM and 64meg of main
memory. Otherwise that machine sound fine, given, of course, that
there is no such thing as; a machine that's to fast, too much RAM, or
a hard drive that's to big. Hope your planning on using Windows NT
with that setup.

Dave Paige
Alfheim Imaging
[e-mail]

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Just a note to all Toaster owners who
recently sent me questions for the
Dr. Toaster column in VTU...

I deleted your message folder
while upgrading to Netscape 3.0.

Oops.

If there are any new questions,
please send them via email
[e-mail]
for response and inclusion in
the next column.

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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
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Scott of The Glory Boys wrote:

> Sometimes this forum reminds me of a junior high school cafeteria with
> bullies waiting to jump on the new guy. I can't count the number of
> messages I=92ve read that begin "Since your new here..." As if that's a
> benevolent way of setting a pecking order.

If my .newsrc file can be believed, I've read over 25,000 posts to the
LW newsgroups.  I've sent several hundred of those myself.  Can you show
me a single one that began with those words?

That's not to say that these forums can't be intimidating, or that the
answers to simple questions won't sometimes sound patronizing, whether
or not they're intended to.  But I've seen few, if any, instances of
folks flashing their credentials for the mere purpose of bullying the
innocently hapless.  To suggest that this happens routinely is pretty
outrageous.

Then again, what else is new?

See--and I don't know why I'm trying to explain this--if you want more
patience and civility here, unjustly insulting a lot of people isn't
a real good way to start.

- Ernie


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From: [e-mail](Michael C. Ling)
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On May 27, 1996 14:44:20 in article <Re: LightWave 6.0 ?(wish list...)>,
'[e-mail] (Brad Peebler)' wrote:
>
>With Auto Key Adjust, Auto Key Create, and the TCB spline controls you
>can also adjust the curve in real time in Layout. The initial drawing
>must occur in Modeler, but adjusting the curve is no problem in
>Layout.
>
>BP
>PS: I have added drawing spline curves in Layout to the master wish
>list.

I would love to see bezier curves with control handles, like you have with
2d vector drawing programs; Truespace has it in their program.

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In a message of 27 May 96 Jeroen van Velsen wrote to All:

 JvV> Does anyone know which motherbord for the Pentium Pro is safe
 JvV> to buy? (Without the bug in the chipset, which reduces the PCI
 JvV> speed from 50mb/s to 5mb/s)

 JvV> I heard that some people noticed this when plugging in a Matrox
 JvV> instead of a simple graphics card. There was NO graphics speed
 JvV> increase!

 JvV> As I understand this bug was/is in the Intel Aurora and the Orion
 JvV> chipset.

Hmmmm, the problem is the Orion chipset. All early PPro Motherboards
including the Intel Aurora may have a bugy Orion Chipset.
But since i know you live in Holland and europe is not one of the first
places where PPro Motherboards where available the risk of having a
faulty chipset is very low.
We have one of the very first PPro Boards available in Holland and we
have no faulty Orion chipset.

 JvV> If anyone knows anything, please let me know because I'm about
 JvV> to purchase a LW killer Pentium Pro 200 system, but I don't
 JvV> want a faulty motherbord. (Or have to replace it)

You can check it yourself. You will need a B0 stepping.
The Orion chipset (82450 OBP) consists of 7 chips.
Loop at the biggest one (82454).
Below this number is a code su xxx.
 022
 024
 028
 030
 042
 044 = A2 Stepping (BAD)

 059
 063
 064 = B0 Stepping (GOOD)

We have a B0 Stepping and are very happy with our system. We have a
Microstar motherboard wich performs better than the name suggests.
We bought this one as a test machine because the ASUS and Intel
motherboards where not yet available in Holland at that time.But we
have seen that most benchmarks of Intel MB are lower than ours.
So Check it out, for more information just give me a call, you have
my number.

Rolf Meijer.
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Jay Turberville wrote:

> Can anyone explain how two five point polygons that share the same
> points can have different percentages of flatness.

Stuart should probably answer this, since it depends on the method used
to calculate non-flatness, but it probably has to do with points being
considered in different orders on the two sides.  Ideally you'd like
your planarity metric to be independent of things like point order.

Oddly enough, my Foley & van Dam is open to the very page on which this
is discussed.  I had non-planars in my diamond too, and I didn't want
to diverge from the brilliant cut facet pattern by tripling.  (Man,
non-planar polygons can really screw up booleans.)

- Ernie



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[e-mail] wrote:

> If you ever look at a photo of one, it's almost briiliant sparkilng
> whit, so, the table its sitting on in the scene now has a white top,
> and that made a big difference.

When you get the refraction happening, you should be able to set your
diamond against a black background and (with an overhead light and the
camera looking down) still see mostly white.  The black, where it's
visible at all, adds contrast.  Jewelry catalogs usually photograph
diamonds against a dark background.

- Ernie



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Jay Turberville wrote:

> Well, I don't know if Encarta is really much of an authority, but it
> says "The better glass imitations are cut and polished like true stones,
> but cheaper counterfeits are molded in the form of brilliants and
> consequently have rounded edges."  This implies that there should be no
> rounded edges?

I think they're referring to the edges shared by facets.  When the facets
are made by polishing, the edges between them are sharp, but not so when
the whole thing is made in a mold.

- Ernie



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Hello everybody on the Lightwave Faq(tory).

I'm looking for any additional documentation that
has been released on Lightwave software.

Yours truly.

S. van Leeuwen

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Hello,

I want to upgrade my PC with a second pentium cause I have
a dual board. Is this any good under windows NT using lightwave
V4.0? And waht about a Quadriple board? Or do you advice Studio
3D Max?

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Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]> schrijft:
> > If I am right, then wouldn't the following combination of anti-piracy methods be better :-
> > * CD must be in drive
> > * Serial number protection (either encoded on CD, or entered by user during installation)
> > * Checking for duplicate serial numbers on the network
>
> I think Kenetix has a nice method for preventing pirating with MAX. You have the hardware
> lock. And when you first get the software and install it it goes into trial mode which lasts
> 30 days. The software will disable itself unless you call Kenetix and register over the phone
> with them. They then give you another authorization code and that finishes unlocking the
> software. I can still see how this could be pirated, but it seems to make it harder to pirates
> to use non-beta copies.
>
> Jeff

your right Jeff. But the problem is it's a violating human rights, I guess Piracy is as old as our roots
but then again it doesn't make the original software any cheaper.



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From: "J. Derek Davis" <[e-mail]>
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>
> >>
> >> Derek,
> >> Are you sure that's >>> 17 <<< megabytes of ram???
>
>
> >It's very possible if he only has one meg of chip ram.
>
> Not possible to have one meg of chip ram on a 32bit RAM accel.!!

To clear the confusion.  The 17MB RAM refers to the memory on
the CSA Magnum 040 accelerator only.  This model features 1MB of
SRAM and 16MB DRAM - all 32bit and autoconfigs to 17MB RAM.
The SRAM acts like a high speed (20ns), zero wait state cache.
This has nothing to do with chip RAM.

-Derek

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From: [e-mail] (J. Jorgensen)
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Subject: Minimum system requirements for Lightwave 3D for Windows
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Greetings and Salutations...
I wanted to collected some opinions on what sort
of PC hardware (CPU, video card, memory, HD, etc)
would provide a functional level of performance
with the Lightwave 3D software.  I realize that this
is a loaded question, but without causing too much
of a ruckus, I'd like to know what you all think.


Regards,
John R. Jorgensen
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail](Tom Kubat )
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Subject: Re: EPS import
Date: 29 May 1996 06:02:45 GMT
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In <4oa1i6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Howard ST)
writes:
>
>Is there any way to get an eps file (such as a logo) from Illustrator
or
>Freehand to import into Lighwave or Modeler. I posted this question a
week
>or so ago and someone suggested that Lightwave would recognize this
>format, but I get errors that say "unrecognized geometry format' or
>something like that. Do I need a separate conversion utility? Thanks
>
>-H
>-H

I'm not sure if it helps you but Toaster CG 4.1 will load eps files.
You should be able to get an IFF version of it which can be used with
PixelPro to create a 3D model.

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From: [e-mail] (Kenneth C. Nilsen)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: What the price on Amiga  Lightwave 5.0 Full Version ?
Date: 29 May 1996 09:47:25 +0200
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David Dolinski wrote (27-May-96 22:03:55):
>Yes, Someone know if a shop sales Lightwave 5.0 Full Version (not the
>Upgrade) in the world with the best little price.

Hi all!

I would also like to know what the price is for the Amiga version of
Lightwave 5 (full). Can I order it directly from NewTek ?


Regards,

---
InterMedia Consulting   |   Kenneth C. Nilsen ([e-mail])
      General Manager   |          http://www.norconnect.no/~kenneth/

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I'm trying to produce quality AVI from lightwave but maybe somethings was
wrong during installation: The results using HIIP was "pixelled" and the
NewTek AVI does not work, when using lens flare i got a GPF etc.
What can I do to produce an AVI file with no compression and high quality
?

Thanks' for the Help

[e-mail]


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Hi,

Is there any one out there who is writing or converting all the plugins to the
MIPS version?

Thanks

MM


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From: Arnie <[e-mail]>
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Tom Benoist wrote:

> Does Powertexture allow you to bring UV coordinates from outside
> sources or export models from Lightwave that contain the actual
> texture vertices ?   What format is this new data?Power texture just stores typical LW mapping parameters (type,
size,center, etc.) plus the u and v offsets accumulated from interactive
shifting.  It saves an ascii file i believe.

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From: [e-mail] (JohnSemper)
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>>As far as most of Lee's posts go, I like to see them. He seems to fill
in for
>>the guy who used to walk around behind X
>>Ceaser

>>Ceacer


>>ser and
>>mutter "thou art mot
>>rtal" This is am
>>n important role for any company.

>>Ben Gibson


Ben, did you mean "Caesar?" (Finally my high school Latin comes in handy
for something!)

Have a nice day!

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Can someone please tell me a good book for lightwave, as I find the
manual is a bit tedious and slow.
    From da bowwee Bwuva

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From: Mitch Rosefelt <[e-mail]>
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In the LW5 manuals, one of the new features mentioned is the use of Metaballs in Modeler.  The
reference guide mentions 2 plugins, Addmball.p and pcblob.p., as well as a sample object
M.bal, which are to be used w/Metaballs.  Of the 3, only Addmball.p is on the CD.  There are
no instructions for using Metaballs in the user guide.  Was this implementation dropped?

BTW, the metanurbs is a very impressive piece of code.  Will we be able to keyframe them
directly in some future release?

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Justin Kuzmanich wrote:
>
> I know this sounds low budget, but I tried filming some avi's with my
> hi-8 camera directly from my monitor. They look ok (good enough to show
> to friends, ect.) but there's an annoying flicker which shows up on
> video that I was unable to eliminate with the shutter speed settings on
> my camera. Has anyone had any sucess with this technique and is there
> any way to get rid of the flicker?
>
> Thanks much,
> Justin K.

    The reason you got flicker is that the refresh of your monitor and the shutter speed of
your video-camera are not synced. You would have the same problem with a regular camera. It is
just plainly impossible (for an amateur without syncing equipment) to get a good shot of a CRT. It
is one oft the reasons why I tend to composite the picture on the TV whenever I need a TV for a
shot. (I've been through this twice; where I needed it so I know; and it's a pain!) Usually if I
need a CRT in a shot I try to have a face shot of the actor; show the back of the CRT and then
maybe do a cut to show what's on screen.
    I realise that in your case you would need to tape the actual screen; the reason for my
long answer is that there really is no good way of doing it! The cheapest way of transfering
animations to tape is to get a VGA to NTSC converter. You might want to klook into that.
    Hajo

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From: [e-mail] (Brad Peebler)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightWave 6.0 ?(wish list...)
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:41:12 GMT
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[e-mail](Michael C. Ling) wrote:

>On May 27, 1996 14:44:20 in article <Re: LightWave 6.0 ?(wish list...)>,
>'[e-mail] (Brad Peebler)' wrote:
>>
>>With Auto Key Adjust, Auto Key Create, and the TCB spline controls you
>>can also adjust the curve in real time in Layout. The initial drawing
>>must occur in Modeler, but adjusting the curve is no problem in
>>Layout.
>>
>>BP
>>PS: I have added drawing spline curves in Layout to the master wish
>>list.
>
>I would love to see bezier curves with control handles, like you have with
>2d vector drawing programs; Truespace has it in their program.
>
>--
>M C L -
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mike_Ling

Noted. Thank you!

BP


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From: [e-mail] (Brad Peebler)
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Subject: FEATURES!!
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Okay everyone. Here is the official notice for feature requests. As we
are hard at work on the next rev of LW I am putting together the
master list of feature requests. I know there are lots of good ideas
out there so send them to me!

Please send all feature requests to [e-mail] so that I can
compile them quickly.

Thanks

BP

PS: This includes interface ideas, new input devices, plug in
architecture...anything you would like to see in LightWave.


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>BTW - If you haven't figured it out, your general slam on this group really
>irritates me.  I did a review of the posts I have made in the past three
>weeks.  I made 34 posts that were responses to questions posted by others.  I
>made 1 post that was a direct request for information for myself.  I made 16
>posts that were general discussion/commentary (most of which were on-topic).
>I put a fair amount of time and effort into this group and attitudes like
>yours are causing me to seriously reconsider the value of my participation.
>Too many people want too much and are putting way too little effort into
>getting it and are putting far too little back in return.  I'm tiring of it.
>
>There are a lot of folks here whose time is VERY valuable who sometimes go to
>great length to give detailed and valuable information.  And they respond to
>the same questions repeatedly.  I get the distinct feeling that a lot of
>people take this for granted.



Walter, I’m a little surprised that you of all people were upset by my post. You do
know that it wasn’t me who said "F*** ‘em all"?

Hell Walter, you get my vote for forum MVP. I’d say you put a great deal of time
and effort into this group. I’ve greatly benefited from your tips as have others. And
you’ve always treated everyone with respect as far as I could tell. Perhaps a post
or two dropped off of my system. Did someone attack you personally?

BTW my last 10 posts (before this one) 8 responses to questions posted by
others, 1 general discussion/commentary (the post that upset you) and 1 bad
joke. I’m actually kind of  proud of that ratio.

I still feel bad that LonerSam has now made two lengthy apologies for his one
lengthy question. I just don’t think he has anything to apologize for except,
perhaps rambling.

In reading your post again, I still think I must have missed something.

There are definitely some people who participate in this forum just for the sport,
and that’s OK. (Just sort by author and look at the topics to see who) I just get a
funny feeling seeing guys pronounced guilty before proving themselves innocent -
even in the ultra free speech environment of a news group.

No one who is here for Lightwave takes Walter Jay for granted. But if LonerSam
turns out to be as good as Walter Jay except he’s pissed off, embarrassed and
has fled the group, we all lose.

(Sorry, Scott O’Neal almost  just slipped into a Bob Dole-esque first person rant.)


Scott at GBI



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From: [e-mail] (Brad Peebler)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lw50 patch for German Win95?
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:00:12 GMT
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We are working with all international distributors to have the message
file translated. Once these files are completed, all error messages
will appear in the appropriate language. For the time being it does
require the computer to be configured for US English.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

BP
NewTek

When the files are finished they will be posted.

Ottmar Roehrig <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Apperently when LW5.0 is installed in a system with the german (or
>non-US) version of Win95 starting up Modeler yields in an error-message
>(#218). I heard that there is a patch avialable which correct this
>problem.

>Can someone enlighten us where to find this information? Reply by email
>would be preferred.

>Thanks in advance,

>--
>Ottmar Roehrig
>dcp, design+commercial partner GmbH  | Internet: [e-mail]
>    <http://www.dcp.DE>          | CIS: 102404,3703



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I'm in the UK and ordered the FX Kit book about 2 months ago. My supplier
(Premier Vision) don't know whats happened to supplies as they've heard
nothing from the States. Is it worth me waiting any longer or should I go
for an alternative (recomendations?).

TIA Paddy Ward


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I'm New at these news groups and I haven't found an FAQ. I keep posting
articles and they vanish after about 5 mins. What am I doing wrong?

Paddy


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I'm in the UK and have been waiting for the FX Kit for several months. My
supplier says nothing has been heard from the States regardingit for a
long time. Is it worth me waiting or should I go for something else?

TIA Paddy


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WHY, WHENEVER I ASK QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FX KIT BOOK IS MY POST
REMOVED.

I'M NOT A HAPPY CHAP.

Paddy.


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My posts wheren't disappearing after all. Something was obviously wrong
at my end.
Sorry for wasting anybodies time.

Paddy.


OOOPS!


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 > Amen, Bob.
 > I have to laugh at the VB user's out there who think they can do
 > everything.
 > There is a reason for C/C++ you know.  VB has some MAJOR
 > limitations.

My son who is 13 and his best friend Peter also 13 are students at Boston
Latin School and avid C++ programmers. They take courses at a community
college here in Bean Town with a clss full of Hi Tech Heavies and hold their
own--generally having their assignments completed during the lab time at the
end of class. Right now the two of them are up here in the old attic
computer lab putting together a music program in C++ on the old 486 PC. When
I just asked them about various languages they said that C++ "rocks".


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From: [e-mail] (James Macallister)
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Subject: help:picking Video Ca
Date: Wed, 29 May 96 10:15:43
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 >
 >  Im looking for an affordable video camera. It has to be mounted
 > onto a copy
 > stand for closeup snapshots of some background pictures. The one I
 > have now
 > really bites the big one. Im looking in the 400-600$ range

That's pretty cheap alright. First and foremost buy something with CCD
pickups.  Anything used with tubes, even the Ikegami HL7E which sold
for $70K new is going to look like crap compare
like crap compared to a 3-CCD equipped camera like Sony's original BVP-5.
3-CCDs are better than 2 and 2 are better than 1.  If what you are shooting
are stills on a copy stand, you might want to investigate electronic cameras
like the Zap Shot (Canon?).


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From: Computer Room <[e-mail]>
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Date: 29 May 1996 15:12:13 GMT
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Computer Room of Fort Lauderdale, FL is hosting a Alias|Wavefront Open House on
May 30th from 10am to 4pm. An AE will be on hand to demonstrate the latest
software and be available for questions. For more information or to RSVP please
visit our web sight

http://www.computer-room.com

or you can call Greg, Brett, or Mark @ [phone]


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I'm thinking of purchased a used (not pirated) version of LW4.0 for
intel, I wanted to find out if the ownership is transferable and how much
it will cost?

Thanks,

Mario Cascio
ProMotion
http://www.yodel.com/pm/

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From: [e-mail] (Mamls)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: lightwave 4.0 4 sale
Date: 29 May 1996 12:06:48 -0400
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Lightwave 4.0 (Intel) 4 sale $700. Includes all manuals and dongle,
registration can be transfered to buyer's name.
Also for sale:
Thornton tapes (VHS) Spacecraft Model Design, Spacecraft Surfacing
Techniques
$35 each.
Pyrotechniques (VHS) video tutorial on how to create fire and smoke and
explosion effects. $35
I love Lightwave but I have car payments to make!
Call: Jose [phone] (day). [phone] (evenings)
E-mail: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

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From: Farrell McGovern <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Looking for a copy of LW 4
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:08:34 -0700
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Dave Paige wrote:
>
> Give me a call at work, 301-942-6800. We've got two copies of LW 4.0
> for Intel left.

    Great, I will give you a call this afternoon!

ttyl
     Farrell

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From: [e-mail] (David Hopkins)
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Subject: Re: Addition(s) to the standard LightWave Guideline(s)?
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There are some LightWave tutorials (from my Taming The Wave column in Video
Toaster User) on my website at http://www.primenet.com/~lthouse

Only a handful at the moment but I'll be adding more as time becomes available
and it will at least give you a place to start...

-David Hopkins



In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Hello everybody on the Lightwave Faq(tory).
>
>I'm looking for any additional documentation that
>has been released on Lightwave software.
>
>Yours truly.
>
>S. van Leeuwen


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From: [e-mail] (Mr Happy)
Subject: Re: metanurbs w. Metamorph
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Alan Chan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In <4ob6rp$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Alan
: Chan) writes:

: >Howard,
: >
: >This is exactly what metamation was intended for. Instead of saving
: out
: >16 or whatever frozen metanurb objects, save out a master one, and
: >tweak and save your cages to use as morph targets... try it, you'll
: >love it.

: Sorry, let me rephrase.. 'Save out a master one' meaning a metaformed
: version of your cage object using the MetaformPlus plugin..

: AC

I've been a little confused about metamation and metanurbs and all these
new things (I've only been using LW for a few months and am new to 3D in
general),  But your post seem to clear some stuff up for me.  Let me see
if I got it right.  I create the metanurbs cage object and use that as
the cage in metamation, I then save out a metamorphed version of the cage
which I'll use as the target in the metamation.  I then create the
different morph targets from the cage object (using the low poly count)
and morph between them, but with the metamation plug in they will be
mtaformed to look like the target object, eliminating funky polygon
action.  Is this the way that this is supposed to work or am I completely
misundertanding the process.  Thanks.

--Pat
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Monahan)
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Can we drop this thread now? Its boring me to tears - who knows what its
doing to others. Lets get on to something useful. If nothing else, this
huge thread should have convinced us once and for all of the utter
worthlessness of heated debates via the net. For all those I've bored -
I'm sorry.

Joe Monahan

In article <4objlf$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(InstntGuts) wrote:

>
> So, Joe, when I'm sitting on a balcony overlooking the Mediterranean this
> July, I'll be sipping a cool drink, looking at my new computer graphics
> book
> that paid for my trip, and thinking, "Boy--I wonder if that moron Joe
> Monahan
> is sitting in front of his computer back in the U.S. right now, making an
> utter ass of himself on the Internet--again?"
>
> -- Jon Bell

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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mr Happy) writes:

>: >This is exactly what metamation was intended for. Instead of saving
>: out
>: >16 or whatever frozen metanurb objects, save out a master one, and
>: >tweak and save your cages to use as morph targets... try it, you'll
>: >love it.
>
>: Sorry, let me rephrase.. 'Save out a master one' meaning a
metaformed
>: version of your cage object using the MetaformPlus plugin..
>
>: AC
>
>I've been a little confused about metamation and metanurbs and all
these
>new things (I've only been using LW for a few months and am new to 3D
in
>general),  But your post seem to clear some stuff up for me.  Let me
see
>if I got it right.  I create the metanurbs cage object and use that as

>the cage in metamation, I then save out a metamorphed version of the
cage
>which I'll use as the target in the metamation.  I then create the
>different morph targets from the cage object (using the low poly
count)
>and morph between them, but with the metamation plug in they will be
>mtaformed to look like the target object, eliminating funky polygon
>action.  Is this the way that this is supposed to work or am I
completely
>misundertanding the process.  Thanks.

Yes. Therefore you will have, say Cage1.lwo (source), Cage2.lwo (morph
target), Cage3.lwo (morph target) etc., and animate between them. Once
this is done, you load in a reference metaformed object and link it to
Cage1.lwo so that when you render, the displacement data gets
transferred to the metaformed version. Hope this makes sense, I've got
some tutorials out there that covers this in more detail.

AC


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From: Pat Borjon <borjon>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: MIPS LW Plugins ?!?!?!??!?
Date: 29 May 1996 17:36:12 GMT
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GOOD LUCK!!!!

i had a MIPS chip for a frustrating while when i first bought my
Raptor3.  there is little to no support for it to be found.  i was told
by some folks at either Deskstation or DPS(can't remember which) that there
was alot of politics involved w/SGI & MIPS.  I don't think they're allowing
3rd party folks to do much for it(at least they weren't).  It sounded alot
like another Apple thing to me...good product, good ideas but greedy w/their
software support.

i finally broke down & bought an Alpha chip & am VERY satisfied w/it.  i
wouldn't recommend anyone to buy the MIPS chip for the lightwave world, there
is just not enough support


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From: "Frank D. Cocke" <[e-mail]>
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This is off topic from lightwave but I can't seem to be able to
find a newsgroup on Digital Video and I know that some of you
have experience with these products. You can just send me your
replies so as not to take up room on the Lightwave group.

The video house where in put my animations to tape, using my
PAR, is thinking about purchasing a PVR for a small non-linear
editing setup but is unsure about the capabilities of Speed
Razor or Premiere. One of his main concerns is the speed of
rendering transitions. I know DPS is coming out with an
accelerator for transitions but how fast is it really. If anyone
can give me any first hand working knowledge of these products
it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Frank
--
Frank D. Cocke
The Lightray Factory, 3D animation & Graphics
E-mail to [e-mail]
HTTP://www.netdoor.com/com/lightray

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Concerning diamond shapes, Ron Pepper ([e-mail]) kindly
sent me the following pointer:

   http://www.teleport.com/~raylc/master/tolkowsky.html

where the proportions of a round brilliant cut diamond are discussed in
just enough detail to build a reasonably accurate model.

Ron e-mailed me this because his news server was down.  I may have to be
satisfied with thanking him here because I'm in the process of figuring
out how to do mail via PPP.

- Ernie



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From: [e-mail] (MicroTech)
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On 29-May-96 11:51:44, Mario Cascio ([e-mail]) posted:

> I'm thinking of purchased a used (not pirated) version of LW4.0 for
> intel, I wanted to find out if the ownership is transferable and how
> much  it will cost?

> Thanks,

> Mario Cascio
> ProMotion
> http://www.yodel.com/pm/

Ownership of NewTek products is accomplished by simply faxing a copy of the
purchase receipt to NewTek Customer Service. The receipt should show the
serial number of the product, and you should include a note explaining that
you want the ownership transferred to you.

Regards,
John Crookshank

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From: [e-mail] (Marlon Beltz)
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On Fri, 24 May 1996 06:27:00 GMT, [e-mail] (B.B.) wrote:


>>........snip.......
>very interesting... I would like to know if anybody is running LW on
>PC and rendering on SGI server or Cray or DEC/Alpha (unix).
>I guess than one must have a second LW copy for SGI in order to use
>the ScreamerNet on SGI?


Well, no Cray, but we do cross platform screamernet render with 2
SGI's, 2 Pentium Pros and 1 Raptor Alpha with minimal problems. (the
most annoying is having to edit the scene files to remove the ^m's
after every LoadObject line and the RGB save lines before the SGI's
will render them).

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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Startup failure 213!! Why?
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======================================================================
From: ADAM                      Conference: 102 , Comp.Graphic
  To: ALL                       Message: 2103  Reply To: 0
Subj: Startup failure 213!! Why Date: 05-28-96  Time: 19-46
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > Just bought LW5.0, Newtek is always busy when I ring..
 >
 > Installed on a win95 system with 64 mb ram, CD loaded. Rebooted, then
 > when
 > launching lw modeller it gives me:
 >
 > Startup failure 213: Message file missing
 >
 > Help!! Dongle is well and truly in the back of the machine!!
 >
 > Shit for £1,000 why do I get so much trouble?
 >
 > Mail me at [e-mail] or post reply, I'm getting angry
 >
 > Adam
 >
 >

You need to change your regional settings in Windows to US-English for now.
Error message files for other regions/languages are under construction.


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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Metamation Frustration!
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From: ERIK FLOM                 Conference: 102 , Comp.Graphic
  To: ALL                       Message: 2130  Reply To: 0
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----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > Object Displacement, I get an error message: 'Requires LW5 or higher'.
 > LW 5.00b then crashes after I click 'Continue'.

 > I called tech support again today, when I saw that no patch had as yet
 > been posted to the FTP site. After a lengthy discussion with Brian &
 > Chuck Baker of NewTek Tech support, I was informed that this bug is
 > UNIQUE to my configuration, and they'd never run into the problem
 > before. (The final decision was to have me FedEx them my original CD so
 > they could try installing from it?!? Not sure why, since I bought the
 > freakin' thing direct from them!?!)
 >
 > I'm able to use other plugins (LazyPoints, Effector, Celshader, etc.)
 > without any problems.
 > I made a seperate installation using the default path structure, and
 > had
 > the same problem with the Metamation plugins. This has occured on two
 > separate machines. I've tried it under winNT, and Win95 on the same
 > machine, with the same error!
 >
 > NewTek tech support claims that 'everyone' is able to use Metamation,
 > and I'm the only one to report problems.
 > Besides the beta testers, is there anyone on this list who has
 > successfully used the Metamation plugin?
 >
 > --
 > Erik Flom - ELFWorks - 3D Construction Co.
 > e-mail:[e-mail]
 > URL:http://www.aboveweb.com/ELFWorks
 >
 >

Just to bring you up to date, I checked with Brian and he did receive your
CD, did installs with under both 95 and NT, exercised MetaMation and it
worked fine.  The executable on the CD is not faulty.  He consulted with
programmer Dan Milling, but so far they haven't come up with a way to
duplicate your difficulty.  Your CD is one the way back, and Brian and Dan
are still working on the problem.  We still have no other similar reports,
which would greatly help, so if anyone else if having the difficulty, please
post.


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Subject: Re: What the price on Amiga  Lightwave 5.0 F
Date: Wed, 29 May 96 14:50:34
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On Wed 29-May-1996  9:47 , Kenneth C. Nilsen wrote:
KN> David Dolinski wrote (27-May-96 22:03:55):
KN> >Yes, Someone know if a shop sales Lightwave 5.0 Full Version (not the
KN> >Upgrade) in the world with the best little price.

KN> Hi all!

KN> I would also like to know what the price is for the Amiga version of
KN> Lightwave 5 (full). Can I order it directly from NewTek ?


KN> Regards,

KN> ---
KN> InterMedia Consulting   |   Kenneth C. Nilsen ([e-mail])
KN>       General Manager   |          http://www.norconnect.no/~kenneth/



Here's the whole ball of wax:

NewTek MSRP Prices:

Part No:           Title:                                   Retail ($US):

VT4000           Video Toaster 4000, Amiga                    $2395.00

SW401UP          Video Toaster System 4.1, Amiga, Upgrade     $ 549.00

FL4000           Video Toaster Flyer, Amiga                   $4995.00

LW500xx-sw       LightWave 3D 5.0 (available for Amiga,       $1495.00
 xx=platform        Intel, DEC Alpha, MIPS)

LW500AM-up       LightWave 3D 5.0, Amiga, Upgrade             $ 295.00
                   See qualifications*

LW500xx-up       LightWave 3D 5.0, Upgrade                    $ 495.00
 xx=platform       (available for Intel, DEC Alpha, MIPS)

LW500xx-cu       LightWave 3D 5.0, Competitive Upgrade        $ 895.00
 xx=platform       See qualifications**
                 (available for Intel, DEC Alpha, MIPS, Amiga)

LW500SG-         Lightwave 3D 5.0 SGI                        Call Xaos
 sw/up/cu         For all SGI products call XAOS Tools,
                   at 415-487-7000

LW500xx/n        LightWave 3D Site Licenses, base price       Call NewTek
 xx=platform      available for Amiga, Intel, DEC Alpha, MIPS      Sales
 n=number of
  licenses


*  Amiga Upgrade: Pricing good only for users of existing Amiga
    LightWave 3D as standalone or Video Toaster supplied versions.

** Competitive Upgrade: Packages eligible for competitive upgrade include
    3D Studio, Alias, WaveFront, TrueSpace, Crystal Topas, SoftImage,
    Strata Studio Pro, Electric Image, Imagine 4.0.  Title Page and serial
    number required.

Prices and specifications are subject to change without notice.

For a Dealer nearest you, call 1-800-TOASTER or 1-800-847-6111
  (913-228-8000, outside the USA).   Check your nearest Dealer
  for products and upgrade pricing and discounts.

EMAIL ordering (upgrades): [e-mail]

Dealer/Distributorship info: 1-800-368-5441  (913-228-8000)
or email:   [e-mail]  (US and Canada)
            [e-mail] (International)

NewTek, Inc.   1200 SW Executive Drive    Topeka, KS 66615


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NewTek Educational and Government Prices:

Part No:           Title:                                   Retail ($US):

VT4000           Video Toaster 4000, Amiga                    $1949.00

SW401UP          Video Toaster System 4.1, Amiga, Upgrade     $ 449.00

FL4000           Video Toaster Flyer, Amiga                   $4059.00

LW500xx-sw       LightWave 3D 5.0 (available for Amiga,       $ 895.00
 xx=platform        Intel, DEC Alpha, MIPS)

LW500AM-up       LightWave 3D 5.0, Amiga, Upgrade             $ 295.00
                   See qualifications*

LW500xx-up       LightWave 3D 5.0, Upgrade                    $ 295.00
 xx=platform       (available for Intel, DEC Alpha, MIPS)

LW500xx-cu       LightWave 3D 5.0, Competitive Upgrade        $ 795.00
 xx=platform       See qualifications**
                 (available for Intel, DEC Alpha, MIPS, Amiga)

LW500SG-         Lightwave 3D 5.0 SGI                        Call Xaos
 sw/up/cu         For all SGI products call XAOS Tools,
                   at 415-487-7000

LW500xx/n        LightWave 3D Site Licenses, base price       Call NewTek
 xx=platform      available for Amiga, Intel, DEC Alpha, MIPS      Sales
 n=number of
  licenses


*  Amiga Upgrade: Pricing good only for users of existing Amiga
    LightWave 3D as standalone or Video Toaster supplied versions.

** Competitive Upgrade: Packages eligible for competitive upgrade include
    3D Studio, Alias, WaveFront, TrueSpace, Crystal Topas, SoftImage,
    Strata Studio Pro, Electric Image, Imagine 4.0.  Title Page and serial
    number required.

Students, staff, and faculty of accredited academic institutions, and
employees of military and administrative governmanet agencies are permitted to
purchase products listed above as academic/government sales at discount
prices.  Proof of current enrollment or employment will be required at the
time of purchase.

Prices and specifications are subject to change without notice.

For a Dealer nearest you, call 1-800-TOASTER or 1-800-847-6111
  (913-228-8000, outside the USA).   Check your nearest Dealer
  for products and upgrade pricing and discounts.

EMAIL ordering (upgrades): [e-mail]

Dealer/Distributorship info: 1-800-368-5441  (913-228-8000)
or email:   [e-mail]  (US and Canada)
            [e-mail] (International)


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From: [e-mail] (slick mick)
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Subject: Re: PowerMac Question
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I am interested in purchasing a PowerMac Laptop, but I don't know
>which one to buy and what specs I'll need to do the job I want.
>So please help me out if you know.
>I am going to use the PowerMac Laptop to do the following:
> 1. Photoshop
> 2. Play QuickTime video (resolution 800X600, 30 fps, 60-70mb files)
> 3. use it as a 2nd monitor for my PowerMac Desktop (to display palettes
>       & brushes so my primary monitor doesn't get all crowded.)
>
>I assume I would need active matrix & LCD for good quality display.
>But I don't know which model to get, and the processor speed and amount
>of memory I need to perform the above jobs.
>
>Please reply by email.  Thanx.
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not a lot of people here running 3d studio and a mac lap top


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From: [e-mail] (Lim Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Anims to video question...
Date: 29 May 1996 20:07:30 GMT
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Cheap and decent way to get your anims to tape is to get one of those TV
Encoder boxes.  Those Taiwan made models should cost just over a hundred
bucks.

These encoders dump EVERYTHING on screen, so what I do is to (using
Win3.11) to change my Window's color to a customized color setting where
close to everything is black (so you won't get those title bars, borders
etc on the screen).  "residue" icons like the minimized Progman can be
hidden behind the playback screen.  Note though you dont wanna change ALL
your colors to black cos you'll have helluva time mucking around in all
black to change the colors back.


As for the video cam question, I've tried it too, but the flicker doesnt
seem to go away.  How's about upping the screen's refresh rate too?

Justin Kuzmanich ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I know this sounds low budget, but I tried filming some avi's with my
: hi-8 camera directly from my monitor. They look ok (good enough to show
: to friends, ect.) but there's an annoying flicker which shows up on
: video that I was unable to eliminate with the shutter speed settings on
: my camera. Has anyone had any sucess with this technique and is there
: any way to get rid of the flicker?

: Thanks much,
: Justin K.


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From: "Sun, Guowei" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Pls help! PEX/PHIGS installation, setup and configuration
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:11:04 -0400
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Hi,

Does anybody know what I should install, setup and cofigure to use
PEX/PHIGS
with Openwindow under linux? I have instlled xd serial disks of
Slakware, but
it seems I have to do some more to get it works.

I am using Linux 1.2.13 from Slakware 3.0 with GCC intalled.

Any comment and help are greatly appreciated.


Guowei

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From: [e-mail] (Shane Van Dyk)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Radio Controll (R/C) Plane models?
Date: 29 May 1996 21:49:34 GMT
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I wanted to find out what different covering schemes would look like on
my R/C plane so I ended up building an object in LW 4.0 of it.
It only took 3 hours and is complete, to scale and has a sorta scale OS
.10 on the nose. The model is called the LASY BEE.

My question is if anyone else does this or would like a copy of my plane
for their collection?
 If some people respond I will try to get it on my website with my
other 3D stuff. I would like to get ahold of other 3D R/C plane models,
especially ones made in Model Cad or other similar progs for use as plans.

 Thanks
    Shane
--
       Shane VanDyk               Reality is only a State of mind...
  http://www.mgl.ca/~svandyk       Render yourself senseless with Lightwave


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From: david goerndt <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: change color over time?
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 20:01:03 -0400
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Bryant Reif wrote:
>
> david goerndt wrote:
> > I'm glad you asked! I once had a PAR and Amiga 4000 with LW3.5. and I
> > wanted to be able to envelope surface attributes. The method I came up
> > with requires a PAR or similar device that allows you to seamlessly join
> > frames together. Here goes, first determine how long you want the effect
> > to be, then how much of a change you want(this can all be eyeballed if
> > you want) render a frame, tweak the settings, render a frame, etc., you
> > get the idea. Pain in the ass, but it does work. I have a short anim that
> > I enveloped all of the surface settings, luminosity, diffuse specular,
> > reflective and some others. Now if this sounds like stop motion
> > animation, it is, just as tedious, but you do get results. Color fading
> > is probably the most tedious because you have three sliders to keep track
> > of, so you might want to preplan the color fade with RGB numbers to get
> > it right the first time. You do not want to make a mistake.Others say
> > that morph surfaces will work, probably, but with this method you don't
> > have to set up any morphs, just have a lot of patience!
> >
> > ers
>
> You seriously did this?  I would have went for morphing or an image map w/ velocity
> before tweeking every frame by hand.  Yikes! =:o
> --
>
> Bryant Reif
> mailto:[e-mail]
> http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant


Yes I did, but only one time to see if it was possible. I think it is way
more flexible than morphing as it requires almost no set up, just lots of
patience. Plus you can change all of the surface attributes that have
variable input at the same time. With 5.0 you could even use it with
multiple image maps, although I'm not about to try it. This all came
about because I want to see envelope controls on all the surface
attributes, hell, I want envelopes on everything, maximum control!

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From: "MARTIN D. COLON" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: 3D  LW Virgin
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Needless to say, I need help configuring a sys. for 3D LW. At this time
I am going to order the following:

Tyan Tomcat dual 133,triton,Eisa/pci,512 pbc,etc.,etc...
4.2 Seagate 'cuda Scsi
Matrox Mill/ w/ 4 meg. windows ram
Win NT
and the basics: 3.5"-1.44,6x cd w/ basic sound card,monitor,etc.

If anyone can offer suggestions on a better setup or whatever, please let
me know.
H.M.T.O.L.P.R.